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Fire I appreciate you but you don't need to defend me

if i was here to defend anyone u would know it. im not shy about opinions.
u2 should avoid each other and that be that.

i just wanted to say it was fun playing with u cakez

i think peta gonna carry us to a win here.
what u think skitter

In post 364, Prism wrote:I had a great time being forced to defend

the fact that I stood up for my identity and presentation

, and it was even more fun having my passion for the game called into question for doing so.

Also I will directly apologize for this
I did not realize the reason you replaced out at the time. And I'm sorry for making light of that.

In post 374, SirCakez wrote:I poured all my thoughts out into the DEFCON post game there and it did not satisfy you then. I don't know what I could say to make you satisfied now. I have apologized hand over hand and told you I would have handled that situation differently in hindsight and that it was a mistake how it was handled. What more can you possibly ask of me?

At this juncture there is nothing you could say. I don't think your apology here is sincere, but it would barely matter if it did. I don't want to dialogue with you much further.

You should consider that minimizing these issues is harmful. I did not enjoy your framing that I needed to "just play mafia." I would have preferred you said nothing at all then call the passion and drive I had to play this game into question.

Okay I've said my piece and you've said yours
This discussion can end here and we will avoid each other like Fire suggested

I can /out the Noir game if you want to play that since you were there first

I'm sure you've taken this all to heart. Fortunately I expected this and was already on it. Cheers!

Naw, I'm good, stay in it. In a year or two maybe we can revisit the question but for now I have every intent of avoiding you and concur that the conversation should end here.

Probably the best result possible for Hell there

Man this five way with Gamma, Gamma, Taly, Peta and Ydra is gonna be nuts

congrats shiki u did it

proud of u

Sorry Uly I misread you hard there
But at least scum went down with us

Blocking A50's shot counted as the second sabotage, right?

Yup. There are no more sabotages.

So, what's gonna happen now? Gammagooey picks a player to die?

Hm, not exactly. It's a group elimination with Gammagooey's input mattering more than the others', but it doesn't exclude the others entirely.

Also, scum knows something all of the other players don't which I wonder will come to play

Yeah, scum know who SCUM is.

You've talked about the scum knowledge for the duel game (Shooting a bystander instead) and now hinted at this one.

Can you share any of the other special knowledge/possible sabotages from the rest of the games?

absolutely!

In Event #1 (the chair), scum was aware that the chair kingmaked and then everyone would vote to spare/execute the king (with an incentive for sparing town). The sabotage let you cancel a hammer and also disqualify up to three other players (for four total) from being put in the chair.

In Event #2 (the guillotine), scum were informed about the duel coming up and how the vote for it worked. They also learned they can trade a player for a nightkill in that game. The sabotage was, well you saw

Event #3 (the duel) i went into pretty good detail. They also learned about the next game

In Event #4 (blue and pink teams), I explained the secret ballot immediately and scum also learned exact voting info (who voted what). The sabotage let you publicly attach a player to both suspects who would die alongside the suspect if that one was voted out.

In Event #5 (perfect balance), I told scum the abandoned players would play a shootout, and also explained exactly how the game was intended to be played and how they can counter it. The (public) sabotage was to make it so an extra town player had to cross in order for the instawin to activate.

In Event #6 (shootout), I told scum that the heaven/hell was coming up. The sabotage was roleblocking + auto killing a player.

In Event #7 (heaven or hell), I told scum how heaven and hell worked. The sabotage was to instantly send a player to hell and heaven, but only after at least one hell and heaven vote completed.

In Event #8 (inside heaven and hell), scum can spy on the other chat if they dont have any alive members in it. I explained what the ruler does in event 9 and how event 9 works. There were two sabotages: in heaven you could disqualify players for ruler, and in hell you transform the hell game entirely -- it turns into a group vote to prevent 1 player from leaving hell, scum saves someone, then all others in hell die.

In Event #9 (ruler), i explain the last game, final hour, in detail. I also tell scum how to set up for it. The sabotage was to secretly cause a player to take one less "YEA" vote to die and also die in tiebreakers.

Very cool to read, thank you for taking the time to write it up for us!

What happens if the game goes past this?

What an endgame!

In post 397, SirCakez wrote:What happens if the game goes past this?

We play the final event, appropriately named "Final Hour".

It's pretty simple. You nominate a coalition of town, they're all town, town wins. Otherwise, scum wins. You can also weed out players slowly although with caveats. If scum ever equal town they also win of course.