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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:17 am
by Pavowski
In post 374, Nathann wrote:I just noticed Kyouko has yessiree in her Coalition, so. @Kyouko, but also @anyone who Townreads yessiree: why?
It was a weak vibey townread early on but it's kinda losing it's shine for me

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:06 am
by redtea
Apologies for the wait. VC coming shortly.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:22 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 367, Hakai wrote:
In post 288, Enchant wrote:Hakai do you scumread me?
No.
In post 295, Enchant wrote:Because we not winning D1.
Town has won plenty of times day 1 in the past.
In post 301, Enchant wrote:
In post 299, cyrus62 wrote:Nathann can you hurt me and add hanki to your 5.
HURT: All

I stopping caring from this moment.


You opened eyes to me, that i am wrong. TOWN CAN AND WILL WIN D1!

Yes! Especially with me and you out of Coalition, Town will quess 5 other townies! From 7 people, which contain 5 townies exactly! Yes. You quess them ideally. I believe in your godlike scumreading.


Either way. I ignoring Cyrus for whole game. Go kill me, it's better that explaining something to him.
VOTE: Enchant
This feels like scum who is slowly being boxed into a PoE and knows they will lose day 1.
In post 345, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:HURT: STD
Why?

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Also, where are the townreads on Farren coming from?
I find STD hard to read. I only get vibes off of him and have misread him in the past. I think he's town here but I know my reads on him are likely to be bad, so I would rather he be possibly NKed so I don't have to read him if he's outside the coalition and we dont win.

Will grab Farren quotes

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:24 am
by Save The Dragons
why did you heal me in the first place

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:24 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Oh Nathann spewed Farren. Its pre-flip but I'm confident on scum!Nathann. I also am not seeing anything from Farren to make me doubt that read.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:25 am
by redtea
In post 293, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:@mod, what happens if a Coalition is not locked in by deadline? Is plurality in effect, or does no Coalition occur?
No coalition occurs and the game continues as a mountainous, same as if a coalition fails. Will update the rules to clear this up.

If a majority of players want an extension I can grant one though.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:25 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Vibes, let me see what you posted before I did that. I know I just snapped it off with you

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:26 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 74, Save The Dragons wrote:i'm town so i'm not going to
It was this post

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:50 am
by redtea
Vote Count 1.06
yessiree (1):
Farren
Enchant (2):
yessiree, cyrus62
ssbm_Kyouko (1):
Save The Dragons
Nathann (1):
ssbm_Kyouko
Enchant (1):
Hakai
Not Voting (3):
Enchant, Nathann, Pavowski


Coalition Count 1.06
Hakai (5):
Enchant, cyrus62, Pavowski, Hakai, Save The Dragons
Pavowski (5):
yessiree, Save The Dragons, Hakai, Pavowski, cyrus62
cyrus62 (5):
Pavowski, Nathann, Hakai, Save The Dragons, cyrus62
Enchant (0):

ssbm_Kyouko (5):
ssbm_Kyouko, Farren, cyrus62, Pavowski, yessiree
Save The Dragons (4):
Save The Dragons, cyrus62, Pavowski, Nathann
Nathann (5):
cyrus62, Pavowski, Save The Dragons, Farren, Nathann
Farren (5):
Farren, Pavowski, cyrus62, Nathann, ssbm_Kyouko
yessiree (5):
yessiree, Save The Dragons, Pavowski, cyrus62, Farren

Spoiler: # of Coalition Votes for Each Player
Pavowski - (8)

cyrus62 - (8)

Save The Dragons - (6)

Nathann - (4)

Farren - (4)

yessiree - (3)

Hakai - (3)

ssbm_Kyouko - (2)

Enchant - (1)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.


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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:23 am
by Pavowski
Well, it happened. Everybody except Enchant (who has withdrawn from the proceedings) is now giving Cyrus and I the nod. I guess I have to figure out how I feel about that.

Frankly as much as I don't love the play I am hard-pressed to see how scum does what enchant is doing. Which would mean both scum are going for me and Cyrus. Does it make me want to put enchant in my 5? Damn.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:18 pm
by Farren
In post 371, Nathann wrote:Though this did make me wonder - @Farren, what's your current read on Hakai, and what did you like about him initially when you put him into the Coalition? (Assuming it was more than the fact he was active.)
Middling, at the moment.

And not so much "active" as "willing to make waves." It's a good start, but better if it continues.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:41 pm
by Farren
Right now, I think I'd be okay with either my current coalition, or swapping someone out for Hakai.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:51 pm
by cyrus62
@mod does every one have to have the same 5 for it to work or does it just have to be 5 people being healed by 5?
before I do anything else I want to hear it from mod and FYI if I had to pick 4 to be left out it would be enchant, yessiree ssbm and ferren

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:00 pm
by Farren
Not the mod, but I can answer that.

To pass, five people have to have the exact same group of five people in their coalition.

So something like:

A: A,B,C,D,E
B: A,B,C,D,E
C: A,B,C,D,E
D: A,B,C,D,E
F: A,B,C,D,E

E: A,B,C,E,F
F: B,C,D,F,G
G: A,C,D,G,H
H: D,E,F,G,H

The A/B/C/D/E coalition, proposed by players A,B,C,D, and F gets locked in.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:03 pm
by Farren
oops. Pretend that F doesn't have two slates in, and that second "F" is actually player I instead.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:05 pm
by cyrus62
This just seems so bad.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:13 pm
by Farren
C: CDHNP
D: CDNP?
E: ?????
F: CFPKN
H: CDEHP
K: CFKPY
N: CDFNP
P: CDHPY
Y: CDFPY

D: Save The Dragons; K: ssbm_Kyouko; everyone else - first letter of their name.
So this is where we are now, sorted alphabetically, as of redtea's last tally.
No two people have the same Coalition, so we're nowhere near locking one in.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:17 pm
by Pavowski
In post 390, cyrus62 wrote:This just seems so bad.
What's bad

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:20 pm
by Pavowski
In post 391, Farren wrote:C: CDHNP
D: CDNP?
E: ?????
F: CFPKN
H: CDEHP
K: CFKPY
N: CDFNP
P: CDHPY
Y: CDFPY

D: Save The Dragons; K: ssbm_Kyouko; everyone else - first letter of their name.
So this is where we are now, sorted alphabetically, as of redtea's last tally.
No two people have the same Coalition, so we're nowhere near locking one in.
I appreciate your efforts but somehow this is harder to read than the official VC lol

The alpha sort is nice, though.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:24 pm
by Pavowski
I think this setup is just kinda doomed to messy counts, though. Life is pain

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:26 pm
by Farren
Its utility is mostly in terms of figuring out how close to a coalition we are(n't).

PEdit> Yup. At least at this point, I don't think it matters that much. It'll start mattering more as the deadline shrinks - or if the coalition fails.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:06 pm
by cyrus62
I think enchant may have been right. Wining day one was a fools gambit.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:10 pm
by Farren
In post 396, cyrus62 wrote:I think enchant may have been right. Wining day one was a fools gambit.
The important thing is this:

Trying
to win on D1 is what's important. Maybe we succeed. Maybe we don't. If we do, great! If we don't, we have valuable information that will hopefully help us win later.

Trying is not foolish. And it's certainly no gambit.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:14 pm
by Pavowski
In post 396, cyrus62 wrote:I think enchant may have been right. Wining day one was a fools gambit.
Please stop with this crap. There is lots of time left.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:54 pm
by cyrus62
In post 398, Pavowski wrote:
In post 396, cyrus62 wrote:I think enchant may have been right. Wining day one was a fools gambit.
Please stop with this crap. There is lots of time left.
since you asked nicely help me iron out my five then. Me pav , save by the bell, nathann and hakin . Who do I keep who do I throw out . Do I keep the two jokers and toss out the rest or toss out the jokers?