In post 370, Irrelephant11 wrote:I dunno I think most of what I found weird about Datisi/Aristeia is being resolved by
-both working hard for town (maybe, maybe I'm accidentally just townreading lots of posts)
-reading a bit of their shared history, which is explaining why their earlygame dynamic seemed so complex so quickly
Why is it scummy for their shared history to... not repeat itself exactly as it has before?
yeah they have a lot of shared history + i would expect a complex earlygame dynamic
i think what threw me off was ari going into 'serious' mode so quickly, and towards dats
if she is going to go into serious mode, i wouldn't expect it to be towards dats
(she could totally go into serious mode to push someone else tho)
so like i'm not sure it's inherently scummy, but it felt *weird* in a way that doesn't feel right for tvt either
also: HEAL: irrelephant
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 1:48 pm
by Irrelephant11
Boring game if it's mala/nk15
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 1:51 pm
by Irrelephant11
In post 375, skitter30 wrote:if she is going to go into serious mode, i wouldn't expect it to be towards dats
Makes sense to me that Datisi's "I'm town" would lead to Aristeia going "hang onnnnnnnnnnn not gonna get tricked again! you wanna really play? fine let's play"
i will try my best to be townie and to read four more people correctly so that we win with a successful coalition
will you be joining me?
In post 38, Aristeia wrote:I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days :)
In post 38, Aristeia wrote:I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days :)
why do already i feel like you are keeping your distance from me this game :<
i'm p sure you meant these @irrel?
yes i've seen them, and for those two in particular ari's response doesn't match the context/tone of the above
In post 38, Aristeia wrote:I guess that would depend on how townie you are and whether you can read me correctly as townie in the next couple of days
why do already i feel like you are keeping your distance from me this game :<
i'm p sure you meant these @irrel?
yes i've seen them, and for those two in particular ari's response doesn't match the context/tone of the above
No I'm saying the shared history context. "I'm town" is a thing from their shared history so datisi saying it is triggering(? better word for this probably) for aristeia and explains why her tone shifted
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 2:03 pm
by Aristeia
uh it wasn't triggering for me
he always tells me he's town and I always ask him anyway because I like asking him
In post 360, Irrelephant11 wrote:Skitter if you reread their early game do you still think they’re being awkward in a scummy way
yeah (particularly 47) but not as bad as i did before
so maybe i'm just tunneled idk
i really don't like the context of 47 + it's surrounding dialogue tho
~ HURT: all HEAL: mena HEAL: std VOTE: mala
47 was responding to 40 because I felt he had misunderstood my response to him.
I don't think I was ever pushing him this game? I'm confused where you're reading that I went into serious push mode vs him?
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 2:11 pm
by skitter30
i'm not saying i think you pushed him
(or if i said that (i don't think i did?) that's not what i meant at least)
maybe i worded it badly but what i was trying to say is that the the tone/seriousness of 47 is out of character for you wrt dats at that stage, and that's what's pinging me abt it
it is very possible i am reading way too much into this, but that's what i felt abt it
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 2:14 pm
by Malakittens
Rude.
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 2:15 pm
by skitter30
in that ...
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 4:48 pm
by Ydrasse
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 5:20 pm
by Aristeia
2 [Aristeia, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Save the Dragons, Skitter30] - Irrelephant11, Save the Dragons
1 [Fireisredsir, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Not Known 15, Skitter30] - Not Known 15
1 [Fireisredsir, Irrelephant11, Malakittens, Not Known 15, Skitter30] - Fireisredsir
1 [Aristeia, Datisi, Menalque, Skitter30] - Datisi
1 [Aristeia, Datisi, Skitter30] - Malakittens
1 [Irrelephant11, Menalque, Save the Dragons] - Skitter30
I think this is right don't yell at me if it's wrong :<
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 5:34 pm
by Aristeia
Totally unofficial heal count thing so far [probably meaningless]
8 - Skitter (Basically everyone except Menalque)
6 - Irrelephant11 (Aristeia, Irrelephant11, Fireisredsir, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
6 - Menalque (Datisi, Irrelephant11, Menalque, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
5 - Aristeia (Aristeia, Datisi, Irrelephant11, Malakittens, Save the Dragons)
4 - Save The Dragons (Aristeia, Not Known 15, Save the Dragons, Skitter30)
3 - Not Known 15 (Aristeia, Fireisredsir, Not Known 15)
3 - Datisi (Aristeia, Datisi, Malakittens)
2 - Fireisredsir (Fireisredsir, Not Known 15)
2 - Malakittens (Fireisredsir, Malakittens)
*Assuming everyone is ok with self healing and added my heals in of [ari, dats, nk15, std, irre, skitter]
**Yes I gave myself 6 heals deal with it :>
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 5:36 pm
by skitter30
Oh no we probably should start coalescing >.>
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:41 pm
by Aristeia
would you like to be dictator since you are widely townread?
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:42 pm
by Aristeia
I'd rather not play the elim portion of the d1 on a two day deadline
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:42 pm
by Aristeia
I guess dictator does have a bad connotation
how about designated town leader person
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:55 pm
by fireisredsir
i am feeling somewhat less favorable towards irrelephant than i was earlier but am unsure who i would replace them with in my personal list. datisi i guess. and maybe mena over mala
HURT: all HEAL: fireisredsir HEAL: skitter HEAL: datisi HEAL: not known 15 HEAL: menalque
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 6:55 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 372, Irrelephant11 wrote:I think datisi is mad at my shading his slot in the same way I've seen happen many times when two people's playstyles don't gel (I think mine and Datisi's don't gel).
I'm over here like "I'll just play and push and pull and read and vote and see if I can achieve some stuff for town without breaking my back"
Datisi is like "Unwritten thoughts don't exist, therefore I will write all of mine and dislike any posts without every thought on paper"
And I poked at him a bit and he got mad in a self-righteous way I think is hard to fake as scum
like this just is pure scum tbh
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 7:01 pm
by fireisredsir
all the currently proposed teams (until i just changed) have either ari or irrelephant in them and im not especially excited about that
In post 372, Irrelephant11 wrote:I think datisi is mad at my shading his slot in the same way I've seen happen many times when two people's playstyles don't gel (I think mine and Datisi's don't gel).
I'm over here like "I'll just play and push and pull and read and vote and see if I can achieve some stuff for town without breaking my back"
Datisi is like "Unwritten thoughts don't exist, therefore I will write all of mine and dislike any posts without every thought on paper"
And I poked at him a bit and he got mad in a self-righteous way I think is hard to fake as scum
like this just is pure scum tbh
can you elaborate on this read. why is it scumplay?
