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Rad · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:45 pm

Honestly I don't think you get flipped here if Nancy's not already on you. BB, Roden, MLB all voted you back to back to back because a) they didn't want to follow Johnny and b) MLB is too towny. So they went with Nancy's vote. If Nancy's on BB here BB's gone. Town has to consolidate quickly here and Nancy's close to required to make that happen.

Rad · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:48 pm

Also Johnny got saved because of Nancy.

Noraa · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:52 pm

mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.

Rad · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:59 pm

Well, don't get me wrong. Nancy hard TRing you doesn't mean scum absolutely wins here, but it sure does help. So attacking her was a mistake, even if attacking her was more likely towny than scummy. It was a game specific mistake, or Nancy specific mistake, I dunno.

That said, I read you a bit more towny for attacking her cause why would scum!Noraa attack Nancy here?! Clearly that was a bad read on my part

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:38 pm

In post 368, Noraa wrote:
In post 367, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:noraa was dead as soon as ze suggested nancy could be mafia
maybe! i think i wouldnt have TRed nancy if i were town. probably would let it go more as town. it depends i guess.

just townread nancy its much easier esp if u know shes town lol

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:39 pm

In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.

like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her

Frogsterking · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:26 pm

In post 378, Rad wrote:That said, I read you a bit more towny for attacking her cause why would scum!Noraa attack Nancy here?! Clearly that was a bad read on my part

+1, I thought the Taly slot was obvscum until I read too many of Noraa's posts so she played a strategy that's good against certain players IMO.

Noraa · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:29 pm

ze/zir

RH9 · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:38 am

In post 380, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.
like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her

I agree.

RH9 · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:41 am

In post 380, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.
like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her

In my honest opinion, I think that trying to mislim Nancy isn't easy.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:15 am

In post 384, RH9 wrote:
In post 380, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.
like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her
In my honest opinion, I think that trying to mislim Nancy isn't easy.

Sure it is!
As wolf I like to ML the strongest town.

Ircher · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:27 am

Yes and you would die.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:08 am

Correction.
You think I would die.

But I’m no Ordinary person.

MalcolmTucker · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:09 am

In post 370, Rad wrote:Well, just to be real with you here Noraa, the correct strat for the taly slot (IMO) here was to let Nancy defend you to the win. Probably not super clear considering you joined so late and didn't read the rest of the game though. I agree that it's more likely a town would attack Nancy here than scum, but the Taly slot specifically just needed to chill out and let her win the game for you. There's no slot Nancy read harder town than yours and pushing town!Nancy only reads as a scum move to her.

Like I'm kinda surprised if your scum teammate didn't throw that out there for you to consider.

Good analysis, I think in general the best approach for Nora/Taly slot was relative silence - Yeet barely posted while they were playing and it didn't particularly harm them because town's consensus was the slot was town due to the gladiate. On play alone beyond that I don't think the slot ever looked particularly townie. But I get as scum it can be difficult/weird to just sit back near the end of the game instead of exerting your influence over everybody else.

Had we not fucked up the night-kill on the day you were eliminated, I'd have maybe not been eliminated right away and I intended to use that turn (always likely to be my final one) to push the slot quite heavily, but obviously never got the chance. Wonder how that could've influenced things.

Roden · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:45 am

#justiceforCeph

RH9 · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:40 am

I agree.

Bell · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:06 am

I’m not super sure who the last scum is.

But they have space to mess up once.

RH9 · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:35 am

That's true.
I feel like Town might actually be able to win this now.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:37 am

its just oth

RH9 · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:38 am

You're probably right.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:39 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13508746

theres no reason for scum noraa not to hammer town oth at this game state

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:39 am

also gamma and marci r super scummy lol

RH9 · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:43 am

In post 395, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13508746

theres no reason for scum noraa not to hammer town oth at this game state

True.
(Unless ze was creating false associations.)

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:44 am

um theres no incentive to create a false association to lead to a mislim later when you can just hammer and get that mislim now.

RH9 · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:47 am

In post 398, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um theres no incentive to create a false association to lead to a mislim later when you can just hammer and get that mislim now.

I forgot about this.