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Post Post #3750 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:54 pm

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But i also dont think scum would fakeclaim a confirmable role
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Post Post #3751 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:21 pm

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Wow today's resolutions are REALLY interesting, lemme format something up
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Post Post #3752 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:40 pm

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Joey- why am i claiming?
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Post Post #3753 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:41 pm

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Resolutions
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DAY 1

[
Ban Luxury
~ Silk]
PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.
Effect(s) Unknown.


[
Congressional Peace-keeping
~ brassherald]
PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to
brassherald
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brassherald receives Protection Night 1.


DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold
[/i]
PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory
 
PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

Spoiler: Day 2 Options
DAY 2

1.
[Temporary Ban Gold]
[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.
2.
[Temporary Ban Ivory]
(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)
3.
[Temporary Ban Furs]
(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.
[Embargo Nation]
(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.
5.
[Embargo City States]
(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.
Protection of Natural Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)
 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?
7.
Recognition of World Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.
Funding Arts
(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.
9.
Funding Science
(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.


Day 3 options


Also available in the previous days :

1.
[Embargo Nation]
(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

2.
[Embargo City States]
(permanent, can be repealed)


3.
Protection of Natural Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)
 
***The actual name is changed in the pm but the description is the same so im going to assumed the mods being inconsistent ***

4.
Recognition of World Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)

***The actual name is changed in the pm but the description is the same so im going to assume the mods are being inconsistent***


New resolutions (!!?) :


5.
International Games Nation
(consec, can self-assign delegates)
 
***This one seems complicated, i prefer to wait for the IC to give me his thoughts! But basically you can nominate a player who will then gain some kind of advantage, like abilities? unsure


6.
SECRETO PEPITO
 
@BRASS im not sure if this one is a good idea to out as it might give info to mefias!!!




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Post Post #3754 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:42 pm

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In post 3752, Klazam wrote:Joey- why am i claiming?
Because theres like 2 3 slots who didnt claim
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Post Post #3755 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:43 pm

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@BRASS the last resolution could give clues about fakeclaims and such BTW
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Post Post #3756 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:45 pm

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Also i just reread the SECREOTO PEPITO and i honestly understand the thing now, but im not sure how much it could help town! i think it could go both ways and might make the game very very swingy
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Post Post #3757 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:51 pm

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you missed titus' non consecutive night doctor claim btw in your reads list.

Missed the ranmaru replacement to Claus too

Why are you pushing me to claim, and not the others who hasnt claimed?

Honestly man, your constant pushing for claims and shit bothers me a lot.
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Post Post #3758 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:51 pm

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Also it seems to me that the international games might be amazing to use on Brass.
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Post Post #3759 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:52 pm

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I didnt miss it, i just forgot to add it but im glad your looking at my charts

Im pushing you to claim because you in the 3 remaining who havent claimed, you one of the 2/3 im considering flipping (ranmary,you and not chara) while you are being active, ceasar isnt.
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Post Post #3760 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:54 pm

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Youre * youre* and youre* again
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Post Post #3761 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:56 pm

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Shrug, I see no advantage to claiming. You can put me down as VT.

Might be lying, might not be, dont care either way.

If i gotta be hung, then go ahead. I think even with me getting hung, the pool where scum can be is small enough, pretty sure we've won teh game.
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Post Post #3762 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:57 pm

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So I had a thought. So I'd claimed to have a doctor shot, and I used it on brass n2 as pretty much everyone told me to do right? So why does Titus protect brass that same night as what she claims? If she suspects me I'm still leashed to my claimed action. If brass dies either a) I'm lying and I get lynched or b) brass was strongmanned and Titus' action would have served no purpose. Plus there's the issue of her claim letting her cheese out a brass kill on a night she doesn't have her power. It's waaaaaay too contrived imo.
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Post Post #3763 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:59 pm

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In post 3762, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I had a thought. So I'd claimed to have a doctor shot, and I used it on brass n2 as pretty much everyone told me to do right? So why does Titus protect brass that same night as what she claims? If she suspects me I'm still leashed to my claimed action. If brass dies either a) I'm lying and I get lynched or b) brass was strongmanned and Titus' action would have served no purpose. Plus there's the issue of her claim letting her cheese out a brass kill on a night she doesn't have her power. It's waaaaaay too contrived imo.
sounds good to me.

the titus case over the past few pages has me pretty convinced, really.
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Post Post #3764 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:01 pm

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In post 3761, Klazam wrote:Shrug, I see no advantage to claiming. You can put me down as VT.

Might be lying, might not be, dont care either way.

If i gotta be hung, then go ahead. I think even with me getting hung, the pool where scum can be is small enough, pretty sure we've won teh game.
im not considering this a claim ftr
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Post Post #3765 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:02 pm

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titus said she didnt want to take the chance to let the IC dies just to prove that you were fake and/or to claim roleblocked/strongarmed
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Post Post #3766 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:02 pm

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It's a extremely ambigious VT claim.

thats all you getting from me.
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Post Post #3767 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:03 pm

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Its not a fucking claim if its not a hardclaim, dont insult my intelligence
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Post Post #3768 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:03 pm

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In post 3765, Joey_ wrote:titus said she didnt want to take the chance to let the IC dies just to prove that you were fake and/or to claim roleblocked/strongarmed
Trade of one town for one scum heavily favors town, even if said town is an IC


No shit its not a hardclaim. Im not moving from this here stance, deal with it.
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Post Post #3769 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:04 pm

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Klazam, do you understand that the game is almost opened up ? refusing to claim is not a good thing
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Post Post #3770 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:05 pm

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dont care.
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Post Post #3771 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:05 pm

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In post 3768, Klazam wrote:
In post 3765, Joey_ wrote:titus said she didnt want to take the chance to let the IC dies just to prove that you were fake and/or to claim roleblocked/strongarmed
Trade of one town for one scum heavily favors town, even if said town is an IC


No shit its not a hardclaim. Im not moving from this here stance, deal with it.
BTW i didnt imply i agreed with titus justification, i actually disagreed and i got that information because i asked her myself for the same reason you are disliking the move, im just telling you what she told me when i asked her
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Post Post #3772 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:06 pm

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Post Post #3773 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:07 pm

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In post 3765, Joey_ wrote:titus said she didnt want to take the chance to let the IC dies just to prove that you were fake and/or to claim roleblocked/strongarmed
It's too convenient though: a 1 for 1 trade is pro-town right? I feel like she's been around the block enough to know that for a fact. Plus hasn't she been arguing I could be last red? If she has it makes it very odd she'd give up potentially eliminating a team for one confirmed town. That's several nightkills you take out of the picture with that.
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Post Post #3774 (ISO) » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:11 pm

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I dont think shes thinks ure red, also from a doc pov its hard to justfify letting the IC dies then claim doc the next day if ure hardfos/half cc didnt deliver on his protective shot, idk dude i think the scenario is believable
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