I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.
And same as my own as well.
What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs
Did you read that post? Did you see any “first mate” mentioned anywhere? No, all you saw was nsg Captain and crewmates. Nice WIFOM though.
Is a first mate not part of the crew? Funny, I almost make the mistake of thinking "crewmen" applied to everyone on the crew, including the Secret Agents we know exist.
In post 3729, tris wrote:This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.
Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/
I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.
not obvious, see the first mate idea I had, it would still have been valid after the brig flip
Brigitte flipped crewman, like my role pm, like in the setup spec on the fiirst page of this game, so what’s your point exactly?
that after that flip, there could still have been a first mate
So NMSA actually voted for Xtoxm twice but since the second vote was post-hammerUNVOTE: , it wouldn’t get counted, approximately 7 hours before Xtoxm self-hammered.
So, Reck can probably only be scum with Elbirn and Skitter probably only with NMSA, so gun to head, I think scum is Flubber/NMSA/Skitter.
I think NMSA “hammered” because he knew his vote wouldn’t be counted post-hammer and that no one would notice but thankfully Tris caught that.
So rn, I want to vote for one of them I think.
UNVOTE:
At that point I was just careless and it didn't occur to me that I might have accidentally hammered, much less that the hammer had already happened.
VOTE: NMSA
Meant for that stuff to go outside the quote, my bad.
But you already voted Xtoxm approximately 7 hours before that. Tris proved that.
I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?
Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?
No.
Can you explain what you think about reck at least?
I don’t tr him but doesn’t it make you at all suspicious that no one is defending him? But his behaviour wrt to Flubber is very suspicious, so I dunno.
Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game
Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.
add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh
You voted Xtoxm 7 hours before he self-hammered approximately, then you fake hammered him. I changed my vote because I incorrectly thought you stayed on Flubber until that time and it cleared you.
And why is Creature scum, other than sheer bs opportunism on your part?
because I can't read Creature at all from meta obviously, and I have a slight gut scumread from tone+activity
Well I have a lot of meta with him and he also townlocked Brigitte. Maybe you’re not scum here.
I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.
And same as my own as well.
What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs
Did you read that post? Did you see any “first mate” mentioned anywhere? No, all you saw was nsg Captain and crewmates. Nice WIFOM though.
Is a first mate not part of the crew? Funny, I almost make the mistake of thinking "crewmen" applied to everyone on the crew, including the Secret Agents we know exist.
I guess I should have thought of that but I didn’t think beyond Brigitte flip, my role pm and that nsg post.
I actually think it might be Elbirn. I don’t like how he made such a big deal about that post and never even thought about reconsidering his read on me and then he accuses me of making it “personal”, which was clearly bs.
VOTE: Elbirn
His posts with Flubber weirdly chummy but then who his his partner? Who makes sense with Flubber/Elbirn scum, do you think?
I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last
I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.
Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.
And same as my own as well.
What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs
Did you read that post? Did you see any “first mate” mentioned anywhere? No, all you saw was nsg Captain and crewmates. Nice WIFOM though.
Is a first mate not part of the crew? Funny, I almost make the mistake of thinking "crewmen" applied to everyone on the crew, including the Secret Agents we know exist.
I guess I should have thought of that but I didn’t think beyond Brigitte flip, my role pm and that nsg post.
I actually think it might be Elbirn. I don’t like how he made such a big deal about that post and never even thought about reconsidering his read on me and then he accuses me of making it “personal”, which was clearly bs.
VOTE: Elbirn
His posts with Flubber weirdly chummy but then who his his partner? Who makes sense with Flubber/Elbirn scum, do you think?
Maybe Reck or someone I’m just wrongly tr?
Yeah Elbirn probably at least one scum. I feel pretty good about that vote actually. I think Skitter is finally starting to read me. Never Creature/Ank and Succinct by virtue of hardtown Enter read, so I’m townlocking those three. But if we lynch Elbirn scum today, maybe we get some helpful associatives. Hopefully. All I know is if we mislynch, another scum might escape and we absolutely cannot let that happen, so it’s super critical that we correctly lynch today.
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
Maybe Skitter was right afterall and I was just being a dumbass. Maybe both scum really are offwagon.
Yeah NMSA is town. There’s absolutely no reason for him to have engaged me here as scum. Maybe, I got badly tunnelled by Skitter issues with me and wrongly sr her for it? Yeah, I think so.
So Elbirn and someone else. I will find who his partner is if it kills me. I will solve this game and be the GOAT.
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.
I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:12 am
by Elbirn
In post 3755, Nimueh wrote:
I actually think it might be Elbirn. I don’t like how he made such a big deal about that post and never even thought about reconsidering his read on me and then he accuses me of making it “personal”, which was clearly bs.
VOTE: Elbirn
No yeah you do because everytime anyone stink eyes in your direction you act like a tremendous shitter about it and it makes you impossible to play with. I'm just going to vote park you until one of us is dead, you killed my joy, well done
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:13 am
by Elbirn
You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
In post 3755, Nimueh wrote:
I actually think it might be Elbirn. I don’t like how he made such a big deal about that post and never even thought about reconsidering his read on me and then he accuses me of making it “personal”, which was clearly bs.
VOTE: Elbirn
No yeah you do because everytime anyone stink eyes in your direction you act like a tremendous shitter about it and it makes you impossible to play with. I'm just going to vote park you until one of us is dead, you killed my joy, well done
Spoiler:
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:02 am
by Nimueh
In post 3761, Elbirn wrote:You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
This is scum. That’s why I switched my vote. Scum!Elbirn is hardpushing this bs narrative. How did I go from locktown to scum, because you can’t read?
Why are you the only one who is completely ignoring what I said. You are confibiasing sr on me on something entirely NIA. I believed it was mountanous att and I don’t think town is that stupid that they are buying this read. If you really ever had me at locktown, then this read smacks of convenient opportunitism. Why did I unvote NMSA then? His vote is still on me, in case you’ve forgotten?
Oh yeah, because he’s probably town.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:04 am
by Nimueh
In post 3761, Elbirn wrote:You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
Please lynch this. No way in hell does this kind of post ever come from town.
Just tell us who’s your partner? Is it Reck or someone else?
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.
I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/
Congrats on being the second person to think of this.
In post 3761, Elbirn wrote:You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
Please lynch this. No way in hell does this kind of post ever come from town.
Just tell us who’s your partner? Is it Reck or someone else?
I disagree, someone annoyed by your posting style could be town and post this if they believed the scumslip, which isn't as crazy as you seem to think.
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.
I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/
Congrats on being the second person to think of this.
Sorry, who was the first then? I probably missed it.
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.
I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/
Congrats on being the second person to think of this.
Sorry, who was the first then? I probably missed it.
In post 3761, Elbirn wrote:You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
Please lynch this. No way in hell does this kind of post ever come from town.
Just tell us who’s your partner? Is it Reck or someone else?
I disagree, someone annoyed by your posting style could be town and post this if they believed the scumslip, which isn't as crazy as you seem to think.
He claims he had me at “locktown” though. I don’t recall he ever said that prior to voting me anyway but no, I don’t believe this read. I don’t believe that someone who ever had me at locktown and it’s debatable that this is even true, would completely throw that out, unless it was something that could never possibly be viewed as NIA.
That there was no way, a comment could be explained by anything other than an actual scumslip. Since, I’ve alteady explained why I thought that the game was mountainous, I don’t believe anyone who actually ever locktowned me, would throw that out but let’s for argument’s sake, say he’s just bad town here, then who are Flubber’s partners?
Who am I reading wrong? Unless my reads are wrong and they could be but I really doubt it, who is left? Do you think there’s a deep wolf in this game, we are missing then? I just tr everyone else more than those two. I believe Ank’s solve has to be wrong, since I know I’m town and I already explained why Creature is never scum here and I’m now tr you, so that would mean that Ank only got one right with Elbirn, so even if we go with her solve, she is wrongly tr at least one player. I think unless there’s a deep wolf, it has to be Elbirn/Reck, because it’s never me or Creature and I don’t think it’s you, so who am I wrongly tr then?
NMSA wrote:Flubbernugget: I don't like much about the slot other than the name, but I'm willing to buy that he's sick and that it's preventing him from playing much. Null.
This is a really gross null read that hand waves having to provide real content on Flub by leaning on out of game stuff.
NSMA wrote:flubbernugget, not sure, I could see either, more involved interaction will help the read
In post 2604, Ankamius wrote:Also of note is that the original NMSA wagon is the only time that all three of them aren't voting different people or unvoted entirely
Based on how scattered all the votes were in general even when there was a concentrated push on 1-2 slots, and considering they all never voted together even at the end of the day 1 wagons, that's indicative to me that there's something here
I believe tris is town and the wagon was mostly town lead (barring skitter, I think the unvote was a mistake if she was scum here)
Succinct wouldn't be scum with this
Neither would Chara
Nor xRECKONERx
Elbirn is probtown
Now Flubber's in the town pile? Conveniently parroting Ank? Makes sense with NMSAscum/Anktown
In post 2801, NotMySpamAccount wrote:I've completely lost my will to win this game, it died after the D1 lynch, and now it feels like diving into a pool of molasses just reading the thread. I'm perfectly willing to sheep Ank or skitter or someone if it will just get this game to the end or at least to a point where the game is moving fast than 2 posts a day. If Ank is scum taking advantage to lead town astray, then screw it the scumteam deserves the win because I just don't care enough anymore. VOTE: Flubber, I hope it's not L-1 or a hammer cause I'm sure not checking.
I'm not sure about this. Knowing the Flubber flip it kinda changes how I felt about it at the time. Would NMSA really come in and post an effortless post like this just to bus a scumbuddy?
And then questioning my townread on Flubber... someone NMSA agreed was town earlier... after saying he was null?
There's no read progression on Flubber and it's really weird to me. Null, null, now suddenly I agree with Ank that Flubber is town despite giving no reasons... then show up, vote him out of nowhere, and question why Reck is townreading him?
@NMSA: Can you talk me through your read progression on Flub?
Sure. As you guys can probably tell by my crappy play and join date, I'm new and bad at reading people, so I usually start off games with very few strong reads unless someone has been really scummy. I had no clue on flubber for a while because he had barely posted because he was sick. I had a positive gut reaction to Ank's post, and I was fine agreeing since I still had nothing on Flubber at that point. My flubber vote (which would have confirmed five town had he actually been lynched) came at a time when I hated the level of activity and just wanted the game to start moving or end. When you flipped your vote from flubber (who ended up flipping scum, incidentally) to xtoxm (who ended up flipping town, incidentally), I thought it looked odd enough to ask you why. Your response was extremely useful and explanatory, and not at all a passive-aggressive way of avoiding it.
Said Elbirn, without voting. By all means, lynch me, but get reck tomorrow. (scum!me could say this, hoping you guys wouldn't follow up, gaining towncred. that would give reck some towncred as well I think, but not much. given the risk of town actually lynching me, scum!me wouldn't like the odds, and probably wouldn't say it. this would be wifom if I were scum, but it's something to think about nonetheless.)
These two posts? @NMSA?
Alright then if we’re both right, then you get to be GOAT for realizing this first.
Well, Flubber kept pushing for your wagon, so both Elbirn and Reck did as well. I still think town!Elbirn would question if it was an actual “scumslip” he caught, even a little. I will ISO him, because I don’t recall him ever calling me locktown at any point in the game.
Reck had that weird post about Ank and me, having to be of different alignments, so of course he now has me at the bottom. because he has never bothered to reasses.
Not a pirate game. We are aboard a freighter not pirate ship.
If you are a pirate please take what you want and leave. We want no trouble.
Sorry Brigitte but I'm just a living meme and shitposter. I was actually really disappointed upon actually reading the OP and seeing it declared that pirates are explicitly not a thing.
Also, I'm pretty sure my entry into this thread was on like..Page 36, we're not on page 42. And I've only read up to page 5. So we're currently generating content faster than I can even read it and I kinda worry I've gotten myself into a too active game but we'll make this relationship work everyone
But if I'm going to be useful at all I'm going to really need to just...Interact with new content as it happens and read old shit when I can so please help I'm drowning
After 5 pages I've determined all of Skitter/
Reck
/Enter as town. Briggitte/URAP2 interactions were kinda spammy fun but I'm not certain I see it as AI, but with that being said I think it'd be a weird intro for them to be scum together, which may be useful later on to keep in mind
Uh that's about it so far
Has anyone here, heatd about rule of the three before? If we did hypothetically flip Reck and he flipped red, than this post would prove that to be the case here. Or vice-versa.
In post 2928, Chara wrote:i really don't think Flubber/Elbirn/Xtoxm is ever a team here.
I think his recent posts are actually the scummiest of the three.
The sudden over the top aggression, just basically coming out of nowhere. Unless Elbirn is an alt, I’m sure I’ve never played with him before.
I'm not an alt, and I have like confidence level 1000 that we've played a game before where you were on your main. I'm not about to out it but I could PM you post game if you care.
Anyway, a flub/xtoxm/me team is wrong + your scumread on me because I called you abusive is..really not the best but uhm I would like to take a moment to apologize to you, actually, because I think I was out of line. So uh. I'm sorry.
With that being said, yeah, I do believe that you're very reactionary and you scumread dissent and people you perceive as "against" you, and that wont help you find scum.
I'm fine writing you off as town for the time being but should we wind up in a scenario where I think you might be mafia can we just...be cool? We can just have back and forth discussions and not flame war arguments. I'm here 2 b chill
Whenever I feel like I have a confident solve in a game and enough scum properly pegged to be able to push town into a win, I'm always much more afraid of getting NKed and town being thrown off track without me there than of getting my scumreads lynched
I don't want to get these lynches because I forced people to sheep me with no other choice
I want town to be set up to be able to get them without me there at all
And having someone who can hold a lot of influence over the rest of the town fall prey to a paranoic mindset as a solve is being put into effect is one of the single worst scenarios I can think of
I want to avoid that scenario much more than I want either of these lynches
Being paranoid of the NK in a so far nightless game is...something?
In post 2991, Ankamius wrote:I'll go more into why people should be okay with a Flubber lynch later today
Absolute worst case for anybody, it's an information gold mine
This is the post where he sort of tr me but it’s a really weak read, nothing remotely close to locktowning me. In fact, it almost reads as a possible setup fot later. Like why would you ask someone it they’d be cool with ving sr? I think that’s really weird.
When you do, can you reiterate why you think Flub is scum? I dont lynch people for information, I lynch people because I think they're scum. I get I'm the shitty lurker who hasn't been doing his homework and is begging to be spoonfed but if you want my vote I need you to know that I cant work with "lynch X, itll be informative"
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.
3010
I'm fine writing you off as town for the time being but should we wind up in a scenario where I think you might be mafia can we just...be cool? We can just have back and forth discussions and not flame war arguments. I'm here 2 b chill ~Elbirn
I just caught you in a lie. This is the only post you gave me anything close to a tr is this post and it was nowhere close to anything resembling obvtown. Why do you ask me if I’m cool with being sr? That reads not like the “locktown” read you’re falsely claiming but like you were already setting me up for a mislynch back in 3010. So why did you lie about the “townlock” read?
but I eventually got there. \o/