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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:06 am
by Datisi
though the mark was compulsive if i recall that gams correctly... i need to go dig it up

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:06 am
by skitter30
Scum might be people who:
- didnt find pooky's 'weird' claim to be that surprising on the face of it
- pushed back on me thinking this was normal-adjacent

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:12 am
by Datisi
here's the game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81087
the worst wrote:
MAFIA GOON

Welcome, [player name], you are a 
Mafia Goon
.
Abilities:
- Factional communication: At any time you may talk with your partners HERE
- Mark for Death: Each night phase, you and your partner must select a single target to "mark". The marked player will be publicly be confirmed as marked at the start of the following day, and will die at the same time as the following day's lynch is achieved.

Win Condition:
- You win if at least half of the living players are mafia.
i'm assuming one scum is a "normal" goon and one scum is a "marking" goon? in a way they confirm their target as town and they die at the end of the next day rather than night, but it's a way to circumvent the bodyguard...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:13 am
by Datisi
but why use it now??? sigh i don't think i'm gonna get far trying to guess that...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:14 am
by skitter30
Ya

Pedit idk
That's why my first thought was Doubt at tw, like why kill me in this way over just letting him die ???

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:16 am
by Datisi
oh, maybe there is hope of final 3 being tw/s_s/raven instead??? i welcome that tbh
In post 3751, skitter30 wrote:Scum might be people who:
- didnt find pooky's 'weird' claim to be that surprising on the face of it
- pushed back on me thinking this was normal-adjacent
can you talk about the first point? is that assuming scum!pooky or?

pedit: maye right because of that? liek this throws massive doubt over tw... but i still wanna believe the "partner role without a partner" theory... also why would scum!tw claim bg if he was just gonna do THIS the next day

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:21 am
by Datisi
i have Thoughts on why scum might have decided to do *This* instead the normal kill but i dunno if there's merit in getting it out atm

hit me up later maybe

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:47 am
by skitter30
In post 3755, Datisi wrote:can you talk about the first point? is that assuming scum!pooky or?
No, town pooky. Like i kinda thought the blank vig /bomb thing was kinda unlikely since i thought it was normal-adjacent. But scum knew it wasnt so they would really be surprised to see a 'weird' role

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:02 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3743, Micc wrote:skitter30 has been Marked for Death Night 2. She will die at the end of Day 3.
huh

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:08 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3748, skitter30 wrote:Is it bad that i feel like my solve is currently ss/pooky?
a) yes
b) are you saying that I would ask the mod the question that confirms my partner's claim as fake and then somehow not bus him
c) go read koba again
d) I would know better than to voluntarily enter mylo over lylo??

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:09 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3754, skitter30 wrote:Ya

Pedit idk
That's why my first thought was Doubt at tw, like why kill me in this way over just letting him die ???
The fact that marking exists in the setup is obviously indicative of a protective role though

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:11 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3759, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3748, skitter30 wrote:Is it bad that i feel like my solve is currently ss/pooky?
a) yes
b) are you saying that I would ask the mod the question that confirms my partner's claim as fake and then somehow not bus him
c) go read koba again
d) I would know better than to voluntarily enter mylo over lylo??
e) why do I kill lilith who is locktowning me

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:22 am
by the worst
PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:23 am
by the worst
I can't decide whether I should be laughing or crying but this is fucking wild

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:25 am
by Datisi
In post 3759, Something_Smart wrote:[d) I would know better than to voluntarily enter mylo over lylo??
why is this a point? or like why is lylo so much better for scum here than mylo?
In post 3760, Something_Smart wrote: The fact that marking exists in the setup is obviously indicative of a protective role though
tw town yes?
In post 3762, the worst wrote:PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY
NOPE YOU GET TO SUFFER MORE WITH THE REST OF US

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:27 am
by Something_Smart
Datisi how are you feeling about Raven

I swear you keep answering this and yet I still don't know, it's very weird

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:28 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3764, Datisi wrote:why is this a point? or like why is lylo so much better for scum here than mylo?
Because you only have to fool one townie rather than two?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:28 am
by the worst
I like. Don't think datisi is scum here at all. The mark got through my bg so I kind of just don't care whether Pooky's claim is real or not and will go and sort thru dayplay

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:29 am
by the worst
In post 3766, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3764, Datisi wrote:why is this a point? or like why is lylo so much better for scum here than mylo?
Because you only have to fool one townie rather than two?
this

also fuck being scum in mylo with town!skitter alive

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:29 am
by Something_Smart
Like if I'm scum with Pooky, I'm clearly not going for the megabus angle, so I think there's at least a chance we can both endgame. So why would I make that job way way harder while keeping alive a duck who's objectively terrifying?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:32 am
by Datisi
In post 3765, Something_Smart wrote:Datisi how are you feeling about Raven

I swear you keep answering this and yet I still don't know, it's very weird
imagine i'm currently holding a gun that i keep pointing at you then at raven then at you then at raven again because sumtin don't ADD UP
In post 3766, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3764, Datisi wrote:why is this a point? or like why is lylo so much better for scum here than mylo?
Because you only have to fool one townie rather than two?
/shrug, i guess
i've heard the train of thought be "i'd rather be scum in mylo than lylo since there's more misexe options open" but like (1) with conftown skitter that's not the case and (2) yeah i guess.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:35 am
by Something_Smart
I think scum saw a shiny toy and wanted to play with it

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:37 am
by Datisi
In post 3769, Something_Smart wrote:Like if I'm scum with Pooky, I'm clearly not going for the megabus angle, so I think there's at least a chance we can both endgame. So why would I make that job way way harder while keeping alive a duck who's objectively terrifying?
is "scum!s_s fears town!duck" correct?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:44 am
by Something_Smart
Quite

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:47 am
by Datisi
sigh. i'm trying to analyze the "night"kill choice but... yeah i'm not sure if it matters for today anyway.