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Hi, it's EP.
Hiplop sent me some really nice words that basically made me choose to stay in this game and give it the ol college try (i have no idea if that expression is accurate)
Considering that this is likely going to be my last game for a while, i'll do my best, okay?
Expect me to start reading and rereading by this evening.

The "we didnt wig to avoid trackers/watchers" argument is the worst, least thought-out, laziest argument that i have ever had the pleasure to hear.
We're vendor. Scum or not, who gives a shit if we're tracked/watched?

That whole line and the lines before it scream "im scum and want to sheep this wagon but i dont want to make it look like im just sheeping! Better come up with new arguments! Oh wait, there are no new arguments- might as well pull one out of my ass!"

Thats super scummy thing number 1 that ive seen in the past two pages. Ill get to super scummy thing number 2 in the next post.


-EP

↑ The Pied Piper wrote:You have the gall to complain about our wagon handling when your hydra partner scumread Skybird right up until she started looking like a viable wagon and then 180ed on her.

1. This is a heinous attempt to make my actions look like a sloppy bus. The one "180" post that i made about skybird was a thought that I had that Marquis might be confbiasing hard with Skybird which, by the way, isnt even false. And you're extrapolating a comprehensive read out of one post. A bad attack is no way indicative of the alignment of the subject of the attack. And i am fairly certain that i havent made any other posts about skybird post scumread. Correct me if im wrong.
2. I am actually somewhat willing to excuse this, unless that the above was Plotinus posting. Plotinus, you said you've been following my previous games. that means that you know that a good chunk of my townhunting is based on associatives. You think i wouldnt be conscious about my own if i'm scum? And even if you dont know that because you havent been paying close attention to me, which is understandable, im guessing you know how space invaders went. You're trying to paint me as a distancer afraid of bussing, and that's inexcusable.

Ignore number 2, actually. I read the rest of the post and that's almost 100% nacho.
Still, bad argument.

Looking at

↑ Marquis wrote:VOTE: FS

horrible wig post

In light of 3755
Is laughable

VOTE: tictac
Btw im on my phone so ive really just been jumping around. Dont expect me to actually read this until i get home.

I'm pretty sure that podo and ogre are still god tier town.
Along with pist and probably marquis. Those probably wont change after a read.
-ep (and everything above is also ep)

glad to see you bb

Also, like, if I was scum I would totally fucking say I sent it to someone who got nightkilled or something. Not sending it in gives us a shit ton of unnecessary attention (as you can fucking see this round)

it makes NO SENSE.

Nobody got NKed dude!

Also kinda like recent FS stuff, out of my lynch pool today.

thoughts on tictac itepip?

and yea I know, I mean I'd make an excuse!

This is mostly @hiplop, but what would scum-Piper have to gain by softing a result on you which led to you flipping town?

Axel I notice your wagon analysis is mostly composed of events that have happened and a conclusion. There is very little of your reasoning for having overall feelings that votes could be bus votes given what you've learned about the players in the came over the last month.

You say my vote is a "possible" bus vote, but overall do you actually think I'm scum? What's your assessment of my slot and why?

Regarding your full-steam-ahead cases too. This happened with you with your Seniors push as well where I think there were little indications that you were tending a certain direction, have looked around at what the group-feel was, and then have come in with a big case-post which I struggle to believe that you believe yourself.

A readslist from you with overall reasons would be great even if you feel like your reads are obvious.

Don't want to give an opinion on tictac right now.

*in the game

↑ itlepip wrote:Nobody got NKed dude!

Also kinda like recent FS stuff, out of my lynch pool today.

Myself I'm just wondering whether I need to take another leap of faith on Piper/Marquis.

uh...okay at itlepip

and ogre, I expected it to be a softpush on me to get support and then be like "no I meant Old old school" sorta like what happened. I even said "You're not getting away with softing this", meaning I expected them to neg their claim if anything happened.

Can you explain 3787 ogre? I don't understand the wording

Marq shouldn't be a leap of faith. Marq is real, his checks are valid unless he rescinds them but even if he does whatever his new checks are are true.


BTW I super super hate that piper wasn't checked last night. I almost want to lynch that slot just for the information b/c its so juicy.

Also True no pressure to claim but if you have some useful results you did mention it yesterday. Especially since there is a cop outed claiming now should be fine.

Well that's what I was wondering as well, but it was me that said "old school" and I still don't get the *other* version of the reference. They don't seem like the gambitting type to me.

And by leap of faith, I mean they're 1/2 (at least Piper is now and the first push on you/Ranger was prior to any night phases) - not bad odds from my perspective if they're town. And that's even hating the Lovers' crumb rationale from both slots. And I'm seeing a bit of a resurgence of your aggressive style which was you as scum in that shitty blitz. I haven't seen you as town though (don't think) so you can take that with a grain of salt.

Also I have role-based reasons to *tend* to think Piper's town. It's not strong, but it's another consideration for me. And if you haven't picked up on what my role is yet, then you're just going to have to wait till I die or until it becomes super-relevant.

I thought you had a dramonic innocent, itle.

Or rather, some sort of positive result (positive meaning good).

Okay. Well this is going to be fun because I'm late for work again so I imagine there's going to be a nice rush of activity. But it was you I was waiting on to say go ahead itle since I assumed you had some part in the results.

I'm Willy Wonka, flavour cop. (Slightly amused at this role given my alt.)

No result N1 investigating pistach, and no result again N2 investigating Axel.

I thought it extremely unlikely that I'd be interfered with N1 so I assumed pistach was lying.

*sigh* have fun.

I believe that claim
Double no results is bizarre though
Makes sense night two given you claimed Investigative but I don't see why scum or town would choose to rb you night 1

I'm aggressive all the time

Well guess they did

↑ itlepip wrote:Well guess they did

Were you expecting Ogre to have a result?

safety prodge

↑ True Ogre wrote:I'm Willy Wonka, flavour cop. (Slightly amused at this role given my alt.)

No result N1 investigating pistach, and no result again N2 investigating Axel.

I thought it extremely unlikely that I'd be interfered with N1 so I assumed pistach was lying.

What would I be lying about, though, if you're a flavor cop?

I was wondering if you were a flavor cop because my flavor is Roxie Hart from Chicago who did in fact kill people, your claim is a little less believable hearing you had no result.