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i'm honestly convinced the mod flipped shadow wrong but
VOTE: SAD scout

hi dunn

VOTE: parama
I doubt there's no scum in {parama, arthur} and his reaction to shadow/mariar flipping town in our pt is fake as fuck

PEDIT: oh hi parama don't take it personally

For Parama or HS? Pie was making an argument on Parama in PT, but I haven't bothered re-reading yet to really verify it. HS prob town fwiw.

this is what's going to happen.



first, we lynch Jester. this really should have happened yesterday and I'm pretty sure most people are in agreement here.

next, I want a lynch on Parama. I thoroughly hated the push on S_S (town), and they have continued to push SAD for similarly nebulous reasons, who not only I feel sure is town but I feel pretty sure is part of a town/town pair. I have no reason to town read them and I do not understand why they are so universally town read. I want people if they're town reading Parama to explain why, and if your reasoning is "their tone looks town" then no, that doesn't mean anything at this stage of the game.

I feel pretty sure that's 2/2, then after that I'll go from there. I definitely don't want a lynch on mhsmith right at this stage of the game (though I might consider it again once these two pairs flip).

i also take the fact that he doesn't suspect me literally at all after that flip is a red flag

In post 3777, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: parama
I doubt there's no scum in {parama, arthur} and his reaction to shadow/mariar flipping town in our pt is fake as fuck

PEDIT: oh hi parama don't take it personally

Talk about it a bit more? Obviously can't quote but give the overview of it?

I guess I could also do it the other way around, but at this point Jester is really, really, really obviously lurk-scum.

i could get on board for jester/mds i suppose
arthur/scout is likely town

hs is obvtown yeah c'mon guys
i guess there probably is scum in the jester pair as well. and kagami's the third scum. honestly if i get lynched that's whatever 'cause i'm gonna be v/la for a week starting next wednesday and not having to care about this would be r a a a d but i still think we should get, y'know, actual scum first

In post 3780, Human Sequencer wrote:i also take the fact that he doesn't suspect me literally at all after that flip is a red flag

there's like a thousand and one reasons you're town and the legit frustration in our PT is near the top of that list

HS is lock-town especially after her last few posts, it's just unfortunate that her lover is scum.

SAD/inspectorscout are both town. from there the last scum pair is either mine or Dunn/Kagami, but I haven't looked that much further into it yet.

VOTE: mhsmith-pie

This contains scum. I was just wrong about which one of the two.

your pair is T/T, kagami is pretty obvscum in my eyes

this day is already an unmitigated disaster

In post 3781, mhsmith0 wrote:

In post 3777, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: parama
I doubt there's no scum in {parama, arthur} and his reaction to shadow/mariar flipping town in our pt is fake as fuck

PEDIT: oh hi parama don't take it personally

Talk about it a bit more? Obviously can't quote but give the overview of it?

hard to describe really
it just reads really fake to me when i consider how parama usually posts. we had a bunch of genuine non-game discussion in that pt and the surprise is not it.
it's in the wording and punctuation.

get a strong feeling that in hindsight he was pocketing me all along, he even ended up agreeing with my cerb pet read which doesn't make sense to me because i was clearly just wrong on it and parama ain't no fool

sad/scout is town, can agree with that

Also Pie is probtown because of the nature of how she's responded to me, specifically that she's pretty consistently pushed an anger-based response on our back and forth, where I feel like scum!pie PROBABLY tries to actually engage my points in a better manner, and because the whole tack of blaming me for how it went down (including in our PT discussion) more naturally comes from a frustrated townie than a scum, and because (IMO) it's kind of really obnoxious for that whole thing to just be an intentionally manipulative approach instead of just an honest visceral reaction, and I just don't want to think that she would actually act that way intentionally as scum (because if she was scum, then the whole thing was BS, both in thread and in PT)

I also dont mind my own lynch
I do think mds is town,unsure about jester

At any rate, I think I approve of jester vs parama wagons, not really sure which one I would rather be on. Do need to re-read at some point I guess, probably doing that tonight.

In post 3787, inspectorscout wrote:VOTE: mhsmith-pie

This contains scum. I was just wrong about which one of the two.

/sighs loudly

explain?

In post 3787, inspectorscout wrote:VOTE: mhsmith-pie

This contains scum. I was just wrong about which one of the two.

talk about why you think pie is a wolf?

is there literally any reason to keep Jester alive?

seriously, try to think of one.

it's frankly a complete disaster that he's been allowed to live as long as he has been; he is not even attempting to generate content at this point.

sad is scum part 1:

In post 1721, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:See the thing is, being "townie" or "town-looking" is just NOT good enough. The wincon isn't "go look townie" it's "find scum". So far:

MDS has no scumreads
You have no scumreads
Shadow has NO reads
Dunn has NO reads
Maria has NO reads
Vedith has 1 read
Parama has 1 read
Cerb has done nothing
mhsmith has done nothing (except discuss setup early on ~so~ helpful wow)
Gamma has ????????? reads
Kagami has ????????? reads

Me and inspector have discussed more reads than I feel has been discussed in 70 pages of this thread.

Imagine the deadline was only 8 days for all of Day 1 like the other games. Seriously imagine that.

this was the first thing that really bothered me. it's just this disgusting mass discredit of practically everyone in the game.

and does sad really believe this? it doesn't sound like it, it looks like he's just making this entire post to buddy inspector some more while throwing shade at everyone. if he was reading the thread at all he'd know this is outright false

In post 1861, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:1. BARELY ANY PEOPLE HAVE READS. This is a true fact. I'm not going to argue this point.

ebwop: yeah add this one to the previous post this is the same exact thing

I don't think your progression was townie at all. You went from 'my partner is fine' to, when he got suspicion 'I can't believe he's town'

Only to flip that read - wisely spread out over a few posts - that he is town. Today, she comes out saying that mhsmith shouldnt be lynched before at least 2 town flips - that equals never.

Calling jester 'obvscum lurker' is also a very easy way to get people to vote for your wagon without saying anything useful.