In post 3708, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum could have no-killed/cross-killed to set up three Town eliminations at once. Vax followed by the blocked (Gills), followed by DGB themself which is actually playing out right now to be completely honest.
But it's not 3 elims if DGB blocked noraa which it was probably going to do lmao
You're literally not nightkilling in order to guilty your own teammate. It makes zero fucking sense and nothing anyone has said has convinced me otherwise.
Yeah, I agree its a risky play, and that is deffo one of the arguments in favour of a DGB/JV scumteam
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:59 am
by Marky Mark
In post 3739, Infinity 324 wrote:All of mark's logic points towards DGB being scum, but he's gonna vote noraa anyway. Make that make sense.
The case for a DGB/JV scumteam is a complex case involving gambits, fakeclaims and convoluted PR interactions, so clearly there's lots to talk through and pick apart.
The case for a nora + 1 other scumteam basically boils down to whether noraa can count to 4 or not
In post 3746, Noraa wrote:Its pretty clear as day that Marky and DGB are scum here.
Marky keeps saying scum team is DGB/Jacko just to make it look like he has townie paranoia. But townie paranoia is not what townies have here. Here it is clear as day what the solve is and we are waiting for one person to finally realize it.
Hmmm
As has been discussed, scum!DGB mechanically means JV is lying unless DGB has some very specific role modifier to prevent JV dying due to the weak aspect of his role. Surely the paranoia is you thinking a DGB scumteam WITHOUT JV is more likely here.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 am
by Marky Mark
In post 3750, Noraa wrote:Scum team is just :
Pig(mafia goon)
DGB(Ascetic goon)
Marky(Ascetic goon)
Jacko said something about some action going thru on DGB so DGB isn't ascetic. Ig its possible scum have a 1 shot RBer/Rolestopper or something like that?
Idk about the mech shit but ik DGB/Marky is the solve
and there are no damn clears mech wise. It doesnt matter that town is underpowered. Scum might have some negative utility role or some shit.
You can't base everything on mech and there is no confirmed clear.
"I'm going to ignore mechanical reasons that very strongly bind DGB/JV's alignments together, because it is inconvenient for my worldview"
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 am
by Noraa
In post 3774, Marky Mark wrote:Ok yeah, that kinda makes sense. So, by that logic, DGB and JV both being scum would make town too weak as would be the masons, a negative PR and a semi-useless PR. It seems improbable that DGB just happens to have some funky modifier that would stop JV dying from visiting scum!them so I feel like their alignments are v likely bound up together
No. Scum have a role stopper or something like that and you would know better than me.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 am
by JacksonVirgo
Noraa it’s confirmed DGB IS NOT ASCETIC
Stop pushing lies
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 am
by Noraa
In post 3779, Marky Mark wrote:"I'm going to ignore mechanical reasons that very strongly bind DGB/JV's alignments together, because it is inconvenient for my worldview"
In post 3772, Marky Mark wrote:Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)
So it’s pretty confirmed who the scum team is now fwiw
Yeah from ur perspective, both scums decided to pile onto your conftown. Thats stupid that you still believe that.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:13 am
by Infinity 324
In post 3778, Marky Mark wrote:scum!DGB mechanically means JV is lying unless DGB has some very specific role modifier
To me, there is a 0% chance that both DGB and JV are scum due to balance concerns. There are a few possibilities that let JV be town when DGB is scum:
-Night-specific ascetic (ok, this is admittedly unlikely)
-Roleblocker (the more I think about this, it could make a decent amount of sense. This is the role that DGB claimed, and due to setup spec it knew that there was missing town power. Maybe it thought JV had more shots on their vig. Note that I don't believe any RBable town PRs claimed on d2, besides the fruit vendor.)
-Rolestopper (this could make sense to counter all the town investigatives. The question is why scum would use it on n2 after DGB was semi-cleared after guiltying pig. Maybe they thought the only way DGB get limmed would be to a guilty.)
In post 3772, Marky Mark wrote:Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)
So it’s pretty confirmed who the scum team is now fwiw
Yeah from ur perspective, both scums decided to pile onto your conftown. Thats stupid that you still believe that.
Scum team is Noraa/Infinity or DGB/Marky. If Noraa/Infinity, we pile on Marky rn, get that lim, and win the damn game. Why tf do we both pile onto ur top TR when we need ur vote.
