Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Also, Nancy saying that DGB kill could still implicate scum Titus is a really weird thing for a town player to do. The usual approach to someone you're townreading in Lylo as town is to observe or defend them from the obvious scum pushes, not shut down reasons your strong townread could be town.

Say hydra thinks I'm scum, they're town, why are they going out of their way to keep me scumreading Titus? That tells me the hydra knows I'm town and can't afford Titus/me to townread each other.

What do you think of mastina's vote on Titus then?

[Moongrass]

I know we’re town and we have 2 confitowns in Gamma and Mastina. Out of the unconfirmed slots, I find Titus to be the towniest.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

How mechanically knowledgeable would you say you are?

[Moongrass]

I've been hard townreading Titus since mid-Day 2.

It makes sense for scum!Feys to now townread her as well and claim the team is me and their buddy but push me "In case they're wrong on Moon".

Okay, now you’re badly misrepping me. I had a tr on her BEFORE you did, so now you’re literally rewriting history. Want me to dig up those posts or are you still going to push that misrep?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I know we’re town and we have 2 confitowns in Gamma and Mastina. Out of the unconfirmed slots, I find Titus to be the towniest.

yeah that wasn't me - that was Nancy.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

this is koba here now. I finally found some time.

[Moongrass]

How mechanically knowledgeable would you say you are?

3/10

[Mia and Maya Fey]

ok then maybe u can be town then.

I think one of mastina/gamma may be miscleared.

[Moongrass]

What do you think of mastina's vote on Titus then?

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I'm saying in that post.

If mastina is voting Titus then I think she's probably tunneled on Titus.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

What do you think of mastina's vote on Titus then?

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I'm saying in that post.

If mastina is voting Titus then I think she's probably tunneled on Titus.

so you have absolutely 0 doubt there is scum within the 2 "clears"?

[Moongrass]

ok then maybe u can be town then.

I think one of mastina/gamma may be miscleared.

.....what??

[Mia and Maya Fey]

So the way weak modifier works is - if you are roleblocked, even if you visit scum you won't die.

I have reason to believe scum have an x shot roleblocker likely for this purpose. NM outting just helped them here.

[Moongrass]

Not if the weak Hider role works as I understand it. Like if scum had something like a JK ability then wouldn't hiding fail?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I used this is a scum game recently where I fakeclaimed weak vig so I decided to learn all the mechs around how weak role works.
I've also rolled weak hider in the past in one of my early games.

[Moongrass]

Wouldn't the Hider be notified of the fail?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Not if the weak Hider role works as I understand it. Like if scum had something like a JK ability then wouldn't hiding fail?

That would work too. As long as the weak target was roleblocked and couldn't visit.

So knowing this - how does that change your view on Gamma/Mastina?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Wouldn't the Hider be notified of the fail?

Nope. Hider gets no feedback.

[Moongrass]

Also everyone can be town given your reasoning since everyone assumes the Hider results are legit.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I did at first but I quickly realized there was something wrong with this gamestate since I know I'm town and you 3 don't make much sense as partners with eachother.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Scum don't want to draw attention to that fact - it actually spews them as having scum within them because scum would draw attention to it if they were both town.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I have a strong feeling that it is mastina here that is the fake result because the way they entered the day today reeks of coasting off of a fake clear and wanting to rush a town elim which spews titus town.

[Moongrass]

Wow...like sorting the 3 of you wasn't challenging enough. I'll have to revisit, but I lowkey think your theory is bonkers.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, Moongrass,

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter Enabler

You are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

NK prob informed of the weak hider?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I'm not super impressed with Gamma, rn.

I realize Gamma's content isn't beyond the capability of what Gamma can do as scum, but I am inclined to believe that this is still Gamma as town.

DrippingGoofball
jjh927
Moongrass

Gamma Emerald
House
Titus

Not_Mafia
Mia and Maya Fey (NancyDrew/DKKoba Hydra)

nomnomnom

cyrus62/KorVex

Free Money Free Tea
Not Known 15

This is where I more or less am at right now--jjh and Moongrass are the only two reads I'm locktowning, but I do feel good about Gamma and House right now, and to a lesser extent, Titus. Not_Mafia I mostly have as gut-town and Mia and Maya Fey are here, pending better reflection and ideally nsg thoughts on Nancy to see if nsg thinks that the later town-Nancy pings are correct. (If they are, Mia and Maya Fey shoot up to the conftown tier, but I do need time to reflect and for nsg to also give her thoughts.)

VOTE: Not Known 15