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In post 3772, tenebrousluminary wrote:

In post 3725, April Ludgate wrote:My way too early prediction theory right now is:

Malcolm, Fire, Scorpius, Skitter slot

If I may contribute another reason to my case for Scorp town, I do not think as scum he would have reacted to my defending him by questioning my motives. He needed allies at that time and I think he would have just taken it.

Noted. Yeah, I had scorp town for a while too, so it's really a POE slot for me.

What're your thoughts on Malcolm?

In post 3774, fireisredsir wrote:also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

oh and i still think VP/malc is decently likely

Interesting. I hadn't really thought about that pairing, but I can see some cases for it.

Malcolm hasnt hopped onto the VPB wagon, and VPB has shied away from Malcolm.

I'll keep it in the back of my mind, not necessarily feeling it, but it's something I'll think about.

I really liked VPB's last hurrah post.

In post 3774, fireisredsir wrote:also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

oh and i still think VP/malc is decently likely

I'm more thinking you could be scum than suspecting you, if that makes sense.

I'm going to take a break to not congest.

Thank you for giving Malcolm a chance. I'm almost more interested in watching the people react towards the Malcolm wagon than anything.

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

What do you mean I'm not in danger of getting limmed? I was at E-2. That is pretty much the definition of in danger on D2 of a large.

In post 3776, April Ludgate wrote:

In post 3774, fireisredsir wrote:also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

oh and i still think VP/malc is decently likely

Interesting. I hadn't really thought about that pairing, but I can see some cases for it.

Malcolm hasnt hopped onto the VPB wagon, and VPB has shied away from Malcolm.

I'll keep it in the back of my mind, not necessarily feeling it, but it's something I'll think about.

I really liked VPB's last hurrah post.

when you first brought up malcolm, him and VP as a pairing was my first thought. i think it makes sense with the tene wagon, and some of the interactions early. but that's from the perspective of thinking VP is the scummier one, so idk if it's as clear of a connection in the other direction

Like I've been miseliminated before but, as a last post before I check out for the night, I genuinely do not understand the case against me.

April's read is just really lazy. They admitted early on they'd barely read up on the game and they started accusing me. Since then their read on me has felt incredibly dishonest and lacking in substance. Like, again, I genuinely don't know what the case against me is at this point? April's argument basically seems to be I am simultaneously too townie and too suspect. Again, just bare nonsense.

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

I don’t buy it and think pre-elim effort posting is largely NAI (although appreciated regardless!) but I’m not opposed to Malcolm being voted. I’ll do a deeper dive into my read on Malcolm probably tonight Aus time.

In post 3774, fireisredsir wrote:also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

oh and i still think VP/malc is decently likely

In a hypo-VP&malc world, why would Malcom not just bus me here?

I find your stuff of my wagon very weird.

Why are you deciding you don't want me suddenly again?

In post 3780, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 3776, April Ludgate wrote:

In post 3774, fireisredsir wrote:also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

oh and i still think VP/malc is decently likely

Interesting. I hadn't really thought about that pairing, but I can see some cases for it.

Malcolm hasnt hopped onto the VPB wagon, and VPB has shied away from Malcolm.

I'll keep it in the back of my mind, not necessarily feeling it, but it's something I'll think about.

I really liked VPB's last hurrah post.

when you first brought up malcolm, him and VP as a pairing was my first thought. i think it makes sense with the tene wagon, and some of the interactions early. but that's from the perspective of thinking VP is the scummier one, so idk if it's as clear of a connection in the other direction

Sorry but you're a better player than this I reckon, the idea of a team of me and VP just doesn't work. Like I've put consistent pressure on that slot at times which would be unnecessary from mafia.

In post 3779, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

What do you mean I'm not in danger of getting limmed? I was at E-2. That is pretty much the definition of in danger on D2 of a large.

Tbf I do think VP is correct here.

This wagon is genuinely all over the place, like there's town on it of course since it's not all mafia but I am yet to see one proper argument for me being scum.

In post 3777, April Ludgate wrote:I'm more thinking you could be scum than suspecting you, if that makes sense.

meant VP not you. your POV makes a lot of sense and i think it is p reasonable for you to think i am possible scum from the perspective of actions and movement and all that jazz. i also have been considering a possible world where DV is scum for a while now, so that part makes sense to me

In post 3782, DeasVail wrote:

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

I don’t buy it and think pre-elim effort posting is largely NAI (although appreciated regardless!)

but I’m not opposed to Malcolm being voted.

I’ll do a deeper dive into my read on Malcolm probably tonight Aus time.

At what point have you suspected me so far? This is just a really weird wagon, makes no sense.

In post 3780, fireisredsir wrote:when you first brought up malcolm, him and VP as a pairing was my first thought. i think it makes sense with the tene wagon, and some of the interactions early. but that's from the perspective of thinking VP is the scummier one, so idk if it's as clear of a connection in the other direction

If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?

In post 3779, VP Baltar wrote:What do you mean I'm not in danger of getting limmed? I was at E-2. That is pretty much the definition of in danger on D2 of a large.

who else do you think would have voted you? i guess this is more from my POV of still thinking you're likely maf so your teammates probs wouldn't. if you're town then maybe you were in some danger, idk, i didn't think you were that likely to be elimmed but maybe im wrong

In post 3788, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 3782, DeasVail wrote:

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

I don’t buy it and think pre-elim effort posting is largely NAI (although appreciated regardless!)

but I’m not opposed to Malcolm being voted.

I’ll do a deeper dive into my read on Malcolm probably tonight Aus time.

At what point have you suspected me so far? This is just a really weird wagon, makes no sense.

I have not. By “voted” I mean receiving votes rather than being eliminated. I haven’t decided whether I’m okay with that yet and need to spend some time thinking about my read on you. Your play has not stuck out to me either way so far.

In post 3789, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3780, fireisredsir wrote:when you first brought up malcolm, him and VP as a pairing was my first thought. i think it makes sense with the tene wagon, and some of the interactions early. but that's from the perspective of thinking VP is the scummier one, so idk if it's as clear of a connection in the other direction

If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?

Yeah this logic makes no sense at all, like I've obviously not been all-out to eliminate you, but I'd argue I've had solid suspicion of you so far.

In post 3789, VP Baltar wrote:If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?

i think it's a possibility. and cause i think april has cool ideas and im a big fan of the sudden unexpected wagon to see if it throws scum off their balance

In post 3791, DeasVail wrote:

In post 3788, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 3782, DeasVail wrote:

In post 3771, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: Malcolm

at first i didn't buy the "im for sure getting elimmed so here are my last words... take me away..." from VP considering he isn't really in immediate danger of a lim, but. maybe i do buy it. i'm ok with seeing what happens here instead

I don’t buy it and think pre-elim effort posting is largely NAI (although appreciated regardless!)

but I’m not opposed to Malcolm being voted.

I’ll do a deeper dive into my read on Malcolm probably tonight Aus time.

At what point have you suspected me so far? This is just a really weird wagon, makes no sense.

I have not. By “voted” I mean receiving votes rather than being eliminated. I haven’t decided whether I’m okay with that yet and need to spend some time thinking about my read on you. Your play has not stuck out to me either way so far.

Okay, but there are 17 players remaining in the game? How can you be fine with a null read being eliminated? There's more than enough out there so far to support the elimination of a player who you actually suspect.

In post 3784, MalcolmTucker wrote:Sorry but you're a better player than this I reckon, the idea of a team of me and VP just doesn't work. Like I've put consistent pressure on that slot at times which would be unnecessary from mafia.

nah the interactions read as possibly partner pressure to me. scum def would do that especially on a player like VP who has said himself that he very rarely gets elimmed

In post 3787, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 3777, April Ludgate wrote:I'm more thinking you could be scum than suspecting you, if that makes sense.

meant VP not you. your POV makes a lot of sense and i think it is p reasonable for you to think i am possible scum from the perspective of actions and movement and all that jazz. i also have been considering a possible world where DV is scum for a while now, so that part makes sense to me

This makes me a little sad because I’d like to think that the vibing is genuine but it’s okay, I get it.

PEdit: I mean, a null read being eliminated is something I’m totally okay with, but there’s probably enough from you for me to reflect on to form either a town or scumread, I just haven’t really done it yet.

In post 3793, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 3789, VP Baltar wrote:If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?

i think it's a possibility. and cause i think april has cool ideas and im a big fan of the sudden unexpected wagon to see if it throws scum off their balance

what if we were wagoning scum and then the Malcolm wagon is scum's response to it?

In post 3789, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3780, fireisredsir wrote:when you first brought up malcolm, him and VP as a pairing was my first thought. i think it makes sense with the tene wagon, and some of the interactions early. but that's from the perspective of thinking VP is the scummier one, so idk if it's as clear of a connection in the other direction

If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?

Tbh I was tempted by the wagon too because OOO SHINY and had to tell myself to stay strong

In post 3770, April Ludgate wrote:replace Cape with Malcolm, and this is the exact team I proposed earlier, VPB.

Scorpius, Malcolm, Fire, Skitter.

Definitely. I'll reread your Malcom case probably tomorrow to see how I feel about it. I'm still not sure, but I did find that one interaction with him that pinged me earlier, so I should pour over that time in the game again.