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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:13 pm
by Auro
What claims apart from the two gunsmiths can give false positives? Jailkeeper?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:13 pm
by Comical
In post 3797, Auro wrote:I prefer Alch to Nero because I get the feeling Nero's *asking* for the lynch. Unless he's scum with NSG, in which case NSG is a good vote anyway
In post 3793, Auro wrote:I also have a problem with her wanting to vote in VTs at all, I don't know if PR claims should ever stop NSG from lynching scum.
are you once again assuming that i am making up a behavior that i have never done before?
it seems like your view of me is as someone who gets some lock scumread and then forces that person's death, not stopping in the face of claims. i would call that view inaccurate.
NSG, can you towncase Alchemist? Or at least describe why he is townier than both Eddie and I, yes, as Eddie asks.
i've gone over this before. i wouldn't call it a "towncase", though.
In post 3341, northsidegal wrote:honestly i don't actually think that alchemist's whole thing with oka being a gunsmith is scummy. he has some pretty bad lines ("Nobody's saying Oka's not Jailkeeper so I'll assume that's the case here.") but i can actually track his thought process about a scum gunsmith / jailkeeper pointing towards vigs and thus a scum jailkeeper protecting a partner. i'm not saying that i agree, but it feels like a pretty genuine and complex thought that seems unlikely to have been pulled from nothing by scum.
was there some change in the gamestate that caused alchemist to want to basically go in an entirely new direction – against oka, who people were starting to townread more? i don't think so. i feel like this post is fairly accurate:
It's not a scumclaim. I challenge you to explain why scum me would correctly guess that you're Jailkeeper and then push you for it instead of quietly passing on the info to my scumteam?
And unless I'm scum with RCE, why would I as scum shake up the status quo when he was on track to being lynched?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:15 pm
by Auro
Oh. I thought there would deffo be more false positives than just each other lol
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:15 pm
by Comical
Doesn’t resolve, but he’s even night give him a results
Basics guys
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:15 pm
by OkaPoka
PLEASE VOTE NERO NSG
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
by northsidegal
oka, i've already told you my reasoning.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
by OkaPoka
AGHHH
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
by northsidegal
as much as i appreciate you saying please, asking politely is not convincing.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
by OkaPoka
DO IT OR U DIE
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:16 pm
by Auro
In post 3807, northsidegal wrote:are you once again assuming that i am making up a behavior that i have never done before?
it seems like your view of me is as someone who gets some lock scumread and then forces that person's death, not stopping in the face of claims. i would call that view inaccurate.
My view doesn't have to be that extreme to hold consistency, NSG.
I feel like you're going "eh, let's just lynch here" rather than really scumhunting there and acknowledging that you're only voting outside due to claims.
Perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but, eh.
In post 3807, northsidegal wrote:are you once again assuming that i am making up a behavior that i have never done before?
it seems like your view of me is as someone who gets some lock scumread and then forces that person's death, not stopping in the face of claims. i would call that view inaccurate.
My view doesn't have to be that extreme to hold consistency, NSG.
I feel like you're going "eh, let's just lynch here" rather than really scumhunting there and acknowledging that you're only voting outside due to claims.
Perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but, eh.
perhaps i've been making a mistake this entire game by calling the people i'm willing to lynch "null". perhaps it would look a lot better and be easier to understand as well as more accurate to my real thoughts if i called all of them my scumreads.
if, instead, you considered that grouping to be my "scumreads", would that eliminate that feeling?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:19 pm
by Eddie Cane
In post 3809, Comical wrote:Doesn’t resolve, but he’s even night give him a results
Basics guys
The correct mechanical play is to leash Nero to give a result that is useful regardless of what it is, such as iDany.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:20 pm
by Auro
In post 3807, northsidegal wrote:i've gone over this before. i wouldn't call it a "towncase", though.
Thanks for re-quoting. I don't see why that mechanical spec is too complex for
Alchemist
to come up with as scum, honestly.
I also don't think scum are in any real danger from going after townread slots. I think "do they randomly go after consensus town as scum" is actually something that can be checked in Alchemist meta.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:20 pm
by OkaPoka
okay
lets just stack luna, pp, and nero onto one target if he's not going to be lynched
lets just stack luna, pp, and nero onto one target if he's not going to be lynched
i dunno why we're pretending he's not just outed mafia but yea
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:21 pm
by Auro
In post 3819, northsidegal wrote:perhaps i've been making a mistake this entire game by calling the people i'm willing to lynch "null". perhaps it would look a lot better and be easier to understand as well as more accurate to my real thoughts if i called all of them my scumreads.
if, instead, you considered that grouping to be my "scumreads", would that eliminate that feeling?
I would feel better about you, and then start asking you to describe your scum cases.
Especially starting with your scum case on me.