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While I'm working on it, why do you think Pooky opted not to kill N2?In post 3799, Hectic wrote:Could you both tell me what you think of my Pooky-case? I think it's him, but if not, probably Lavender. Also, I should really read why Prism so strongly though it was Chara and get back to you.
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In post 3795, Nachomamma8 wrote:HURT: Lavender
Scumteam had a weird strategy going into this. Elements and Puppy tried for a mutual bus to give Puppy the credit to get spared the next day, but seemed to only half-do it. If Puppy had a strong scumpartner (aka any of the players with a big ol' chunk of posts this game), I don't think it unfolds the way it does - they would be encouraged to either press it harder or drop it completely. Catboi kill N1 was silly; as Pooky pointed out, catboi was a high town read but most certainly not unmislynchable like many others that are still alive.
Really? That's not the impression I get at all. Launchy (what I call Puppy) looked to be distancing because he knew he was out of the game at the end of the day (on a town FIGHT), since he moved off Ele and tried pushing me instead, and then only revoted upon realising Ele/beeboy was actually gonna happen.
It's not Tanner because of early Puppy/him interactions. It's not Prism because hyperposting. It's not Pooky because I think Pooky makes an effort to make a bigger splash play centering around the Chara role, and I don't think Pooky hangs out on Hectic the day after the Taylor Swift lynch. It's not Hectic because my heart tells me it's not Hectic.
The things that strongly point me towards Lavender are the early townread on Puppy, which I think happened because Elements said in the scum PT that the strategy was to get Puppy cred then get him spared the next day. I don't think town!Lavender's only read that they express any significant amount of attachment to is a townread on the "if town spares here they lose" guy.
No flipped scum made a run at Lavender, which is kind of crazy when they are the definition on low hanging fruit - whenever beeboy or Puppy mentioned them, it was always attached in a group with other lurkers.
And finally, there's no one else who would have forgotten to submit the N2 kill. There's no reason to pass up on a kill in that situation when it's a kill you very desperately need to silence some town voices.
I don't know, you could argue he's more likely to "meme" by no-killing than anyone else, but it's still very illogical. However, a no kill doesn't make sense for any player in this game. So, the only solution is to ignore it ever happened and play normally, or to assume scum forgot to kill, which implies Lavender or your slot, since Chara's activity was very intermittent and Prism mentioned something about Chara being away from the game for the period of time the night phase occured.In post 3800, Nachomamma8 wrote:While I'm working on it, why do you think Pooky opted not to kill N2?In post 3799, Hectic wrote:Could you both tell me what you think of my Pooky-case? I think it's him, but if not, probably Lavender. Also, I should really read why Prism so strongly though it was Chara and get back to you.
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People are clearing Lavender because of this:In post 3790, Nachomamma8 wrote:y'all are boring.
puppy's early game seems pretty Tanner-centric for someone who knows he's dying soon so I doubt Tanner is scum here. Why are people clearing lavender?
Town were 2 hours away from instalosing due to a clause in the rules which allow scum to pick who gets SPARED if town hit deadline without majority. Lavender came on and saved the day.
I agree with your criticism that the point is not great. But I don't understand how "attacking someone with poor logic" leads you to "scum distancing". Why would Pooky want to distance with Elements at that point? It's usually not hard to find reasons to attack a scum partner (since you know they are scum already), but usually bad distancing happens when people force it - why would Pooky, a very crafty teddy bear, force it?In post 3121, Hectic wrote:This is the first scum-indicative thing I saw. At the time, I found the reasoning here very strange, I think I mentioned it then at some point as well, but basically, it smells of scum!Pooky distancing with Ele, but the reasoning he's provided is just not believable. It's very unrealistic and surface level to assume that scum!Ele is trying to "sneak" himself into the middle of some SPARES because he's Chara trying to ascend. Pooky also for whatever reason is implying puttimg himself in the middle somehow makes it more sneaky, like Ele has put forth a plan of days 1 to 3 SPARES. The read just makes no sense, and it's because scum!Pooky is using it as an excuse to distance some with his partner.
oh.In post 3804, Hectic wrote:People are clearing Lavender because of this:In post 3790, Nachomamma8 wrote:y'all are boring.
puppy's early game seems pretty Tanner-centric for someone who knows he's dying soon so I doubt Tanner is scum here. Why are people clearing lavender?
Town were 2 hours away from instalosing due to a clause in the rules which allow scum to pick who gets SPARED if town hit deadline without majority. Lavender came on and saved the day.
This is a reach.In post 3121, Hectic wrote:Alright, then we have this. This also pinged me at the time, but I couldn't really put my finger on one of the reasons for why until overnight. The post is worded in a very strange way, he's not talking to Ele directly, he's not just going straight into his thoughts with a "I find this hilarious because", he's starts with a "This is just a hilarious read from". I know some of you won't like this kind of read, but unnatural wording when talking about scum partners is a serious scumtell, because here, it looks like Pooky is presenting the read to an audience, like this is for all intents and purposes how it'll be viewed by others - which it is.
Okay, the other reason it's scummy is because Pooky does more tinfoil/weird reasoning to shade Ele for it. He assumes Ele is forming a team solve with the two scum exactly being Tanner/Launchy, and the Chara being Pooky. There is nothing to suggest Ele is putting forth a team solve with those being partnered, for all we know they could be individual reads - which is what I assumed at the time. Instead, Pooky focuses heavily on how Pooky/Chara/Puppy is ridiculous. It's more TMI-esque distancing.
hectic is a good honest kidIn post 3812, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hectic is Piergeiron the Paladinson your alt? Because that would explain the Backrooms nonsense.
tbh I don't think this clears Lavender when Lavender was being told that they'll be locktown if they vote there. Sure Lavender can wait around for like 2 hours but its too risky. If town shows up and votes Taylor then they're screwed and anything can happen within 2 hours.In post 3804, Hectic wrote:People are clearing Lavender because of this:In post 3790, Nachomamma8 wrote:y'all are boring.
puppy's early game seems pretty Tanner-centric for someone who knows he's dying soon so I doubt Tanner is scum here. Why are people clearing lavender?
Town were 2 hours away from instalosing due to a clause in the rules which allow scum to pick who gets SPARED if town hit deadline without majority. Lavender came on and saved the day.
Why Krazy?In post 3814, Nachomamma8 wrote:hectic is a good honest kidIn post 3812, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hectic is Piergeiron the Paladinson your alt? Because that would explain the Backrooms nonsense.
care to join me on lav or krazy but probably lav?
I was Grumpy Cat, I thought you knew +_+In post 3812, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hectic is Piergeiron the Paladinson your alt? Because that would explain the Backrooms nonsense.
NoIn post 3819, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:are you Piergeiron?