Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:42 am
Vote count 3.03
with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2020-10-03 13:30:00).
In post 3789, PlusJOYED wrote:im fine with being elimed here it's just not my preferenceIn post 3782, Ydrasse wrote:plus i have a feeling that you’re scum backed up into a corner and you’re trying to throw out some weird theories in an effort to try and deflect elims away from you.
In post 3804, Tayl0r Swift wrote:1) the wifom argument that bob cant be scum because NKs.
2) if bob is good at PR hunting, bob kills teacher over the claimed and widely townread checker. so despite what bob is saying, NKA implicates bob
3) no scumhunting
4) bad posts
5) low content
ok who is in your townbloc and who is scum then? why are the people in your PoE likely scum?In post 3805, bob3141 wrote:In post 3804, Tayl0r Swift wrote:1) the wifom argument that bob cant be scum because NKs.
2) if bob is good at PR hunting, bob kills teacher over the claimed and widely townread checker. so despite what bob is saying, NKA implicates bob
3) no scumhunting
4) bad posts
5) low content
That is rather simplistic
1) I just love to tease scum scum on their bad nigth kill choices.
2) Thats just silly. Are you saying any game that a town pr dies Im scum? As that happens most games, just i always hit pr nigth 1 with out fail
3) I already got town block formed. Game ant realy interesting after you know the way to a win.
4) which posts are bad?
5) to be honest ill say half the players in this game post to much. I have a rule never more than 10 post per day average.
This is why we aren’t doing Bob today. Osuka first. You can come at me later if this is wrong.In post 2851, osuka wrote:this is correct but i said at some point that ill vote for bob if it looks like were getting a no lynchIn post 2843, PlusJOYED wrote:osuka: iv or mena
In post 1065, osuka wrote:how is kerset worseIn post 1034, Saudade wrote:Well its both.
Neither is a good behavior for town.
I dont like how osuka is playing either, if Kerset was any better maybe the wagon would've been on him right now.
Kerset's just worse
In post 1066, osuka wrote:getting vaguely scummy vibes from teacher right now but i dont think it warrants a vote quite yet
Again, I think it’s pretty obvious that Osuka has been anti-Town this whole time. All you have to do is go back and read.In post 1129, osuka wrote:I don’t think I’m too keen on getting rid of kerset just yet. The wagon feels off to me for one reason or another
Those of you on it, what are your reasons to lynch that slot
In post 1225, osuka wrote:i think plusjoyed can be town for now? I'm not entirely sure. towny vibes but i'm wary of him for some reason
In post 1233, osuka wrote:scum vibes from andres for distinctly indistinct reasons
Can we just kill this slot already?In post 1236, osuka wrote:menalque's iso is interesting. feels like fabricated disagreement and reads that slowly drift towards consensus while never truly getting there, all the while trying to make it seem like the reads are naturally evolving. very odd
pardon? why would there be a mafia doctor? there's zero indication that we have a vigIn post 3688, bob3141 wrote:In post 3679, Menalque wrote:incidentally, is this trueIn post 3673, bob3141 wrote:Informed town is normaly always paired with a pr. In teachers case he needed to know there was rolestopper due to his loyal modifier.
this feels incredibly broad but I can't remember enough concrete examples either way
a player is only informed if there is reason. sometimes players arnt informed but have role to inform them of the nature of the game.
Vannila townie on his own being informed of scum roel does not fit this. A pr however.
Examples in a game with a scum strongman joat with no town protective. The reason to warm scum of a broken combo. Tracker, watcher and rolecop.
informed goon. warns scum that IC is buttleproof
informed cop. informed that doc could be scum and is confirmable. Warning dont play follow the cop as he could be scum.
in this informed of rolestopper. whielle having loyal modifier. warns that a no result isnt a guilty.
There is never any reason for player to be informed of a scum role just for teh sake of it. informed is use to warn a player that usual good game play could be bad. i.e. scum killing in teh night IC not knowing it buttleproof. And their kill failing
please point out in my iso where i was deperately trying to get away from that slotIn post 3693, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: Osuka
You will remember that Osuka voted for Kerset D1 as a policy and was desperately trying to get away from that vote when it hit 5.
ive had a terrible game in generalIn post 3696, Andresvmb wrote:Osuka had a terrible D2
since you seem to fit in both the "extra dense" category and one of the "blind" or "ignoring posts" category, here's a quote for you from the same page:In post 3708, Andresvmb wrote:This is what I’m talking about.In post 1216, osuka wrote:youre assuming that i read the threadIn post 1166, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so you dont realize your vote is on kerset for a long time despite being told but once sau unvotes you unvotes?
In post 1224, osuka wrote:that was a snarky way of saying i posted before i got to that point in the thread, but since you seem to be slightly dense i'll make sure to be extra explicit when talking to you from here on outIn post 1222, Tayl0r Swift wrote:anyone else noticing osuka waffling and not taking a firm stance on anything? scumpoints to osuka. also yeah i kinda do assume you read the thread. thats like baseline minimum town kinda has to do.
an informed vt is just a stronger version of a regular vt. why does this sound so outlandish to you?In post 3713, bob3141 wrote:normaly because from ive seen if a vt realy needs to know something. That means the entire town needs to know because why would one vt matter. In that case teh game simply becomes a semi-open.In post 3710, Menalque wrote:okay but like this doesn't really convince me, even after reading it twice, that it doesn't make sense to just have an informed townie? like it's roughly equivalent to enabler but with more incentive to out the informationIn post 3689, bob3141 wrote:a player is only informed if there is reason. sometimes players arnt informed but have role to inform them of the nature of the game.
Vannila townie on his own being informed of scum roel does not fit this. A pr however.
Examples in a game with a scum strongman joat with no town protective. The reason to warm scum of a broken combo. Tracker, watcher and rolecop.
informed goon. warns scum that IC is buttleproof
informed cop. informed that doc could be scum and is confirmable. Warning dont play follow the cop as he could be scum.
in this informed of rolestopper. whielle having loyal modifier. warns that a no result isnt a guilty.
There is never any reason for player to be informed of a scum role just for teh sake of it. informed is use to warn a player that usual good game play could be bad. i.e. scum killing in teh night IC not knowing it buttleproof. And their kill failing
like I feel like you're reading a lot into/making a lot of this but idk why it doesn't make sense to just give info to a VT on the assumption that they will out it to the PR thus creating what is basically a named townie which can fit in fine
Had a game where town were informed about two roles.
why would i set up kerset and then run away? that makes zero senseIn post 3748, bob3141 wrote:In post 3727, shellyc wrote:@bob lets disregard setup spec. what do you think of osuka?
pedit: (no offense) joyed has a rather weak scumrange tbh, scum!joyed doesn't do anything but meh I'll give you this one since much of the plist was posting a shit ton
good odds of being scum.
The fact he helped run kerset up the first time as an early voter and never returned. Now kerset might have later claimed doc but at that point kerset hadnt claimed. not liking the fact he never returned in the second combo of it. One thing to not join in the first place but to leave when the pressure is high.
Nor once question kerset day two. I thought it was scummy that he had to be asked who he protected. And then dodged the question by claiming novice. An answer which was hammer worthy. So i would expect atleast soem questioning
Those were the examples of all the informed town/scum ive seen in the games ive played on this site. Where i mentioned a how cop had ben informed about a doc minus its alignment. In that case it was due to there being town voyour and no vig/gunsmith.In post 3813, osuka wrote:pardon? why would there be a mafia doctor? there's zero indication that we have a vigIn post 3688, bob3141 wrote:In post 3679, Menalque wrote:incidentally, is this trueIn post 3673, bob3141 wrote:Informed town is normaly always paired with a pr. In teachers case he needed to know there was rolestopper due to his loyal modifier.
this feels incredibly broad but I can't remember enough concrete examples either way
a player is only informed if there is reason. sometimes players arnt informed but have role to inform them of the nature of the game.
Vannila townie on his own being informed of scum roel does not fit this. A pr however.
Examples in a game with a scum strongman joat with no town protective. The reason to warm scum of a broken combo. Tracker, watcher and rolecop.
informed goon. warns scum that IC is buttleproof
informed cop. informed that doc could be scum and is confirmable. Warning dont play follow the cop as he could be scum.
in this informed of rolestopper. whielle having loyal modifier. warns that a no result isnt a guilty.
There is never any reason for player to be informed of a scum role just for teh sake of it. informed is use to warn a player that usual good game play could be bad. i.e. scum killing in teh night IC not knowing it buttleproof. And their kill failing
bear in mind that sometimes an informed role isn't informed of the existence of a role in the setup, it may be informed of someone else's alignment (though obviously this only applies for a town-aligned informed role)
Since you have said in 3815 that the vote in 519 wasnt serous and that it simply got caught up in a wagon. What did you think of kerset and his wagon? Both at the time and in light of his flip.In post 3818, osuka wrote:why would i set up kerset and then run away? that makes zero senseIn post 3748, bob3141 wrote:In post 3727, shellyc wrote:@bob lets disregard setup spec. what do you think of osuka?
pedit: (no offense) joyed has a rather weak scumrange tbh, scum!joyed doesn't do anything but meh I'll give you this one since much of the plist was posting a shit ton
good odds of being scum.
The fact he helped run kerset up the first time as an early voter and never returned. Now kerset might have later claimed doc but at that point kerset hadnt claimed. not liking the fact he never returned in the second combo of it. One thing to not join in the first place but to leave when the pressure is high.
Nor once question kerset day two. I thought it was scummy that he had to be asked who he protected. And then dodged the question by claiming novice. An answer which was hammer worthy. So i would expect atleast soem questioning
if i wanted to set him up, id bus for the towncred. if i wanted to save him, id never have set him up in the first place