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I'm very considerate.

Can you guys finish discussing it. So I can take a break.
I've been here awhile.

[Why do you bother to mention mason reads at all, Bell?]

[Another question I was wondering is if you crumbed your role at any point, but I assume you didn't cause i dont see it being brought up anywhere. And it is abundantly clear that Dr Easy was always going to claim Detective. So I suppose conventional wisdom would suggest that you got unlucky and claimed an existing town PR, and not that FL masterminded this situation]

[Although i suppose this is lucky, in a way, because you were probably going to die regardless of the claim, so this is useful to scum. So maybe you knew there was a detective and intentionally did this, and that's what explains the unlikeliness]

[Weird that you would keep on playing so much if your purpose was to suicide bomb a town PR, though]

[Oh well. I'll just sit on top of Creature as you go (´ω｀*) ]

[pedit: still interested in solving, btw? Or are you laying down now. If you're still interested in solving, a (possibly) final readslist would be neat. Just in case]

~Morning

I'll be super duper frustrated if I start going back to solving rn and find the thread locked.

[Yea which has like at least a coin flip's chance of happening]

[So maybe just a rapid fire townblock list or "scum inside here" list off the top of yer head]

~Morning

Morning we don't know how many masons there are
a 17 player game probably has like 7 town PRs
so let's say there's 2 masons + 1 doc + 1 vig
that's still room for 3 other town PRs
Bell happened to claim one of them - it's not THAT unlikely

I don't crumb I always worry i'll get outted and die.
Might have chased Toogoloo around me if I had paid closer attention but. opps. There are hints and crumbs but no direct detective. crumbs.

I do crumb as scum tho, *throws that in the trash* I guess I'm never crumbing now.

The mason thing? I figure it isn't worth worrying about lots of people didn't seem to give a crap about it. I'm probably wrong anyway. I usually am.

13 player normal games have like 5 PRs so no that isn't an exaggeration

In post 3805, Solstice wrote:[Yea which has like at least a coin flip's chance of happening]

[So maybe just a rapid fire townblock list or "scum inside here" list off the top of yer head]

~Morning

Why would you doom me like this.

Bell openly hypothesizing about Ydrasse and i being masons is so so scummy and anti town
he only does this as scum thinking he'll get town points for the boldness

ok sorry i'll stop now
pichu used Sunny Day

Read my earlier posts to see a more responsible person face desking at multiple people anti-mason claiming or hinting that they weren't mason.
It's silent but you can hear it if you listen.

In post 3811, pichu wrote:ok sorry i'll stop now
pichu used Sunny Day

It's wrong to lie Pichu.

In post 3806, pichu wrote:Morning we don't know how many masons there are
a 17 player game probably has like 7 town PRs
so let's say there's 2 masons + 1 doc + 1 vig
that's still room for 3 other town PRs
Bell happened to claim one of them - it's not THAT unlikely

[Yeah it's perfectly reasonable that I just misinterpret setup balance anyway. I figured ~2 masons + doc + vig + informed would leave room for maybe 2 other roles. I guess it could be 3. And I thought Detective is a role that barely ever appears ? which I still do because I've seen it once ever. But maybe I just happen to have not seen the games where there are detectives]

In post 3810, pichu wrote:Bell openly hypothesizing about Ydrasse and i being masons is so so scummy and anti town
he only does this as scum thinking he'll get town points for the boldness

[Yeah that makes no sense to me really, the only possibly town spin i can think of is maybe he's trying to explain why his read on you looks odd or something. Don't really get the point]

~Morning

Yeah, I was trying to explain my perspective and be understood. But it doesn't work. I genuinely doubt I'm right. I rarely am. So there's no real risk involved.

In post 3809, Bell wrote:

In post 3805, Solstice wrote:[Yea which has like at least a coin flip's chance of happening]

[So maybe just a rapid fire townblock list or "scum inside here" list off the top of yer head]

~Morning

Why would you doom me like this.

[don't you think it'd be good for us to know where your strongest opinions are in the event you get hammered? Your safety isn't really a priority, is it?]

~Morning

No because I'd rather just do the full thing and crush Flavor's dreams or completely humiliate myself post work than just, shove out a bunch of half-assed work. I can do it. But what will it help will you listen? Will you be convinced?

I said I'd solve on my own the next 7 days.

(1): MURDERCAT
: (2) Spiffeh, Solstice
(7): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake, Double the Trouble
(1): Bell
(1): Creature
(1): Toogeloo

(1): Dunnstral
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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In post 3817, Bell wrote:No because I'd rather just do the full thing and crush Flavor's dreams or completely humiliate myself post work than just, shove out a bunch of half-assed work. I can do it. But what will it help will you listen? Will you be convinced?

[I totally understand that cuz i'm the same way a lot of the time -- i don't like to give out reads on players i haven't bothered to read much of]

[I can't really say if i'd be convinced or not because i haven't seen it (・ω<) but I guarantee I would give whatever your solve is my full consideration]

Bell wrote:I said I'd solve on my own the next 7 days.

[i am that patient. I really don't care if scum!Bell wastes our time for 7 days provided he's giving updates as he goes. dunno if anyone else agrees though because the case against you is pretty persuasive.]

~Morning

Bell is pretty town and it's pretty clear the town treestump doesn't know what they're doing

Having two of the same uncommon role claim in the game makes them both more likely to be true

By definition I hope it isn't. I never really challenged it for my brain's well being.

In post 3823, Bell wrote:By definition I hope it isn't. I never really challenged it for my brain's well being.

It's more likely for a mod to include two of the same role in the game than it is for someone to fakeclaim an uncommon role and have it show up in the game elsewhere