In post 3796, Dwlee99 wrote:I still don't see why scum!Titus/Andre leaves gamma alive.
Gamma should've check me and clear me. :/
Ebwop
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:51 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 3796, Dwlee99 wrote:I still don't see why scum!Titus/Andre leaves gamma alive.
If 2/3 of Gamma's pool are mainscum I dont think they leave him alive. If 0-1/3 are mainscum, it might be a risk they have to take, when the alternative is flipping town!Gamma. Assuming he is town, poe is vastly reduced by killing Gamma last Night. So if Gamma is town, we're likely looking at either:
1 mainscum in {Titus, Andres} (Gamma's pool minus the cleared T3) AND 1 scum outside this
OR
2 scum outside {Titus, Andres}
And tbh, looking back at the pool, T3 seems quite likely to be checked. Guy's an enigma by playstyle, so I see the former situation as more likely. If 1 scum is in that pool and thinking "how likely is it that Gamma checks me over the others", and they see T3 there, they might be inclined to risk it for WIFOM. And look at how close we were to eliminating Gamma toDay.
Now if Titus and Andres are both mainscum that would be a bold move.
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:01 am
by Gamma Emerald
I mentioned earlier if someone in my check pool would leave me alive it would probably be Titus
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:51 am
by Dragon of the West
I'm cool with the convo and actually fleshing out reads which is 100x better than PoE but we should just decide on an appropriate lim for tomorrow based on how gamma flips today.
If Gamma green: Titus/chaos/someone else?
If Gamma red: Dwlee/Kyo/someone else?
You'll have 2 conf non mainscum if green flip.
There's just a situation where if Gamma is scum and you leave them til D6 it's too late, especially if this is a traitor game
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:56 am
by Dwlee99
I object to being killed.
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:57 am
by Dragon of the West
Well that logic seemed to work for Gamma
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:27 pm
by Titus
In post 3803, Dragon of the West wrote:I'm cool with the convo and actually fleshing out reads which is 100x better than PoE but we should just decide on an appropriate lim for tomorrow based on how gamma flips today.
If Gamma green: Titus/chaos/someone else?
If Gamma red: Dwlee/Kyo/someone else?
You'll have 2 conf non mainscum if green flip.
There's just a situation where if Gamma is scum and you leave them til D6 it's too late, especially if this is a traitor game
Based on this data at least 50% of people that object to being killed are town.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:13 am
by Andresvmb
I’m back tonight.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:30 am
by ChaosOmega
I don't understand the wagon on Titus.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:08 am
by Titus
I think Gamma is scum and scum are feeling trapped if he flips.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:11 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Gamma
This just doesn't feel like town!gamma to me.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:44 am
by Dragon of the West
VOTE: unvote
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:54 am
by Titus
Why?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:20 am
by Dragon of the West
Didn't want a quick hammer while I was at work. I don't like Dwlee's flipflop on the Gamma slot and want to read through Dwlee's ISO for progression reads on Rathe/Gamma. Especially today's day phase...they resisted the mech lim on Gamma for a while, finally hopped on board, hopped off for the discussion about moving the lim to you or another slot, then hopped back on saying it doesn't feel like town!gamma. But that's the first time I recall Dwlee scumreading the slot
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:21 am
by Dragon of the West
I'm still down to lim Gamma, I just want those "if they flip X then tomorrow we'll push Y" convos to happen before end of day phase
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:23 am
by VFP
Well we still have 6 days so no rush.
Plus Andre needs to have a catch up.
Dwlee I just don't see as scum. For what it's worth.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:42 am
by Dwlee99
I think I scumread Rathe day 2? Until someone pointed out the interactions with nom(vax)/osuka. Maybe day 1 too. I don't know how much stake we should put in those interactions anymore and I just feel like Gamma isn't really efforting like I expect. I know Gamma is a good town player. I know that he chose to replace in. Feel like we haven't gotten as much mileage from Gamma as I'd expect if he is town.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:55 am
by Dwlee99
On the other hand: feel like we should have an investigative role here given the roleblocker that scum has. UNVOTE:
I'm indecisive, can you tell?
This whole page and the one before it has some good reasoning coming from Nero and StD about Titus' slot.
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:19 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 3822, Dwlee99 wrote:On the other hand: feel like we should have an investigative role here given the roleblocker that scum has. UNVOTE:
I'm indecisive, can you tell?
We had 2 roles for the jailkeeper to block. One was pretty strong imo, the voyeur was weak but still investigative