Ok, some of this might be old, but hey; sorry I fell so far behind. And it looks bad too; don't have time for niceities atm.
Trilo wrote: You want to drop the books, taking solist doesn't help you do that because you have obsession which means you are locked in a commune cycle UNTIL YOUR BOOKS BREAK. If you really wanted to get rid of your books like you claim you would have looked at someone with “more” insanities than you. Your claimed actions don't mesh with your claimed motivations.
Our working theory is that you are using this cycle to rack up a couple of “explained” insanities that could be used to hide your work in the ritual.
I was
convinced
that Obsessed worked like this:
I Commune Night N. I gain an Insanity. I pick up Obsession. I was convinced that Obsession only affected the
next night’s action only
, for whatever reason (lack of reading or whatev), so I could not be locked in an eternal battle with Commune. (And yes, had there been more Murderers a Commune would have been more effective).
So on Night N+1 I would be forced, by Obsession, to Commune again. I expected this.
I expected N+2 to start the cycle over again, so I could act differently, and then have that action be Obsessed for the next night.
I thought Obsession only worked for the following night. My err.
Why did I want to lose the books? I had originally intended to get the books and search for both Cultists and Murderers, since I prefer investigative roles. I had originally planned to get another player (Vas) to go with me and do some sort of
Black Ops
where we both target the same player with Books and Forensics Tools, so we could effectively rule one person clean for that night. (I only realized later that I’d be picking up one insanity a night and it would have worked better had we both had the different equipment and alternated nights. Something for SAIV, perhaps.)
I wanted to lose the books because they were becoming useless; I was gaining insanities while the murderers didn’t exist. I planned to drop the books and Ward/Res one/two townies constantly (like Benmage/xvart).
Why did I think Solist would work? Because I thought Obsession only worked for the following night (N+1) not N+all following nights.
VPB wrote: Yo Vas, you seem to have a special relationship with Andy judging by the FWAN thread, in your experience does he typically make bad decisions regarding the setup?
Here we go...
VV wrote:
Why, yes. I've played with him a lot and he's a player I respect. But sometimes he does make some bad decisions and is sometimes airheaded with some of his Town decisions. An example would be him outing a non-incriminating track result in DEFCON Mafia 1.0, a vanilla-less game. He softclaimed a track result, which then resulted into three Town PRs outing themselves. It's not outside of his Town meta, if that's what your asking.
I do have a slight Town read on him. Scum-Andy has a pretty malicious air about him: always hungry for a mislynch and pretty intent on spreading evil around. Town-Andy is very casual and light-hearted. I'm getting more pings on the casual and light-hearted side of the spectrum.
I f***ed up really badly in DEFCON, hence me dragging in Vas to attempt and help me out (which didn’t win us the day, but still.)
I am NOT a VI; I just fail at reading and make dumb decisions
on occasion
increasingly often.
Xvart, I had 2 communes as of yesterday, 3 as of today, and no more books.
I am agreeable with Plum as likely cult with SpyreX. Quick read-over of Vas’ case on Plum was good on him.
Much more happy with AV murdering Nico than plum.
Massive counter-case by plum. Not going to read it now (remind me to layer plz, have dentist appt in morning).
I read 3456 by Spy as bussing/dbd.
NACHOOOOOOO (seriously though, its been awhile since I’ve seen you/played with you.) <3
Wraith definitely claiming a Res was what got him killed, i think. Meh. Either that or cult wussed out of killing a big target.
Ok, who the hell is keeping track of insanity infractions? Really?
Xvart was confirmed though.
Vote: Baby Spice
Baby Spice, take it from me, who attempted to (and failed) prove Benmage could win as murderer. HE CANNOT.
@ Trilobite: I HAD to take Hallucination. It was the next best thing for me, and since I’m expecting to be Stalked and Murdered, I’ll be hearing noise anyway. I COULDN’T take Taboo because I HAVE NO EQUIPMENT after the Books were destroyed by Communing eBenmage. I was forced to delve into the forbidden insanities list, so I picked one that I had seen as acceptable for over 4 insanities (and I couldn’t take Taboo).
guide for investigators wrote:
Hallucination (least bad unacceptable insanity - if you have to choose one from this list, pick this one)
MMHMM
I didn’t Taboo my books because I wanted to get rid of them, because of the big sschpeale over them yesterday.
But now I’m either stuck:
Perma-Warding people
Perma-Robbing (NO MOAR INSANITIES PLZ)
Search: Res Kit/ Tools (can’t be done over again, yes?) then: RES RES RES RES
And Res-ing opens me up to easier murders, so that’s good I guess.
Benmage is offering himself up as sacrifice to prove TNM... how noble.
hito wrote:
We should have our two most trustworthy stalkers (Ben's choice) hit Andrius and Nico, who we will ask to ward other players. Failed stalk = lynch. TNM can hit Ben, and Iece and Seacore scull the list like last night (unless Ben has two more people he'd rather have us hit guaranteed.) Andrius and Nico, if you're townies, the best thing you can do is make sure we don't waste a day on you guys.
OH HEY.
IF ME AND NICO CROSS-WARD THEN WE CANNOT BE WARDED BY “CULT” SO WE ARE EASILY KILLED, YES?
God this game. I’m attempting to make it EASIER for people to vig me. Lol
<3 vas this game.
Bye Ojanan.
Bye Vas.
Trilo wrote:
IMO, that's far more likely to be coming from a position of knowledge than Benmage's speculation in #3236.
Its not secret knowledge WHEN ELG DOESNT FLIP. HRRMMM TOUGH CALL HOLMES.
Unless I’m just not following you. :/
Going to put some gradual work into my top suspects over the next couple days. Couldn't do all of it in one sitting; one-day catchups are only valid when I'm incredibly motivated.
But whatever floats your boat, xvart.