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ok, i'll get it up with you, ftl

Hahaha, see, now, that's funny.

End of D2, MS was scum-reading Nick and I was pulling back from that read due to the way his wagon was operating. I'm a bit understanding of BRO--without B&B's flip, I'd probably be pushing/pressuring B&B today.

Instead of providing a sweeping generalization, explain why each of my scum reads and lean-scum reads suck. Give me where you stand on those players, and why pressuring/lynching them wouldn't be a good thing for town.

You wanna ball? Get on the court. I don't need comments from some peanut gallery.


P-EDIT:
@TF: Yeah, sure, write off my questions and points as a pissing match and LOLGAMBITRY. I've had about 3 posts in D3 so far, and I don't think a single one has anything to do with so-called 'shitgambits'.
So, when did you decide to start doing this 'ignore players who are very much a part of the game' strategy? It sounds like this began mid-way through D2, rather than something you're choosing to do right now.
And, if you didn't catch the fucking Nick flip, that's exactly what leads to the kinds of mislynches that scum wants.


P-P-EDIT:
I'm glad you can see what I'm talking about.

-V

Yeah it happened when I stopped giving a fuck about you three, and syr ditched me.
But mostly the first one.

I'm really regretting not using my oneshot role to confirm venmar as PGO. That way we'd either have confirmed liar; or i'd be dead and he'd be confirmed town.

And I wouldn't have to deal with this shit.

ftl wrote:Give me where you stand on those players, and why pressuring/lynching them wouldn't be a good thing for town.

Godly One wrote:

ghost wrote:Well, we could start with Mac, who I've noticed is posting elsewhere but not here.

i am almost certain mac is town. mac replaces bnb in my list of people who should never be touched in this game unless certain things change. along with venmar, TD, FTL and you. mastin is just outside this list.

trust fund wrote:That way we'd either have confirmed liar; or i'd be dead and he'd be confirmed town.

this doesn't even make sense

Sure it makes sense.

I target venmar. If he's telling the truth, I die, he's confirmed PGO.

If I target him and I don't die, he lied.

Moot point because it was oneshot and I used it on bro though.

I'd kill to have a hider role right now TBQH. Or if andy is softing what I think he's softing, i'd love to have that too.

Literally the only reason I'm back in the game right now of any strength is because of what happened last night. It made me care enough to get in here and post this musings and shit. I'll probably try getting back into the game tomorrow, but I just want you three knowing i'll be skipping at least half your shit.

I feel you, as Metal Sonic has been pretty absent due to lots of course-work, cram-school, and labor on his end.
However, it's not going to stop me from competently playing the game and engaging in discussion with all players.
Give us your reads, and what you think is the best course for D3.
Furthermore, explain why you were still on the Nick wagon when it flipped. What were your motivations to hang on to that wagon? How do you feel about it now?

I think it's captivating that you're bringing up your PR (something none of us can confirm) and reiterating that you'd rather be dead than alive in this game. I'm astounded that this has become a tactic for pretty much anyone trying to plead that they are town. Somewhere down the line in this game, acting apathetic and worn out became perceived a town-tell and at least three other players have used it when put under pressure.


Trust, since you and a few others seem to be convinced that I'm fucking useless in this game, would you like me to confirm Venmar as PGO or not?

-V

@trust fund,

well, that's disappointing, because i value your opinion.

ftl wrote:would you like me to confirm Venmar as PGO or not?

do not do this.

To clarify, tomorrow is a day off so I'll probably be motivated to catch up then. I'm just in one of those slumps.

In post 3831, Trust Fund wrote:I'll probably try getting back into the game tomorrow, but I just want you three knowing i'll be skipping at least half your shit.

Nah varsoon, you're fucking annoying as shit, but you're a townread. I'd rather not you go suiciding on venmar. Especially with mastin's posts looming around.



My only major non-universal-already reads from last night:

Venmar..... Wish I had just used my role to test him and died to confirm him as town or whatever. Was strong town, now not so much, paranoia settling in.

Mastin: I personally lead a wagon against him early, but my meta on him says town anyways

Mala: Scum earlier, but lesser so now in light of nickflip

Bro: His reaction to my little reaction test came off decently, but we'll see

FTL: Annoying, but that slot is town regardless.

Oh, and mac towntowntown.

Forgot that one.

In post 3833, zMuffinMan wrote:@trust fund,

well, that's disappointing, because i value your opinion.

^^^ Call me a doubter because of vvv

In post 3825, zMuffinMan wrote:ok, i'll get it up with you, ftl

Unvote
Vote: Trust Fund

In post 3836, Trust Fund wrote:Oh, and mac towntowntown.

Forgot that one.

Elaborate.

In post 3838, Faster Than Light wrote:

In post 3836, Trust Fund wrote:Oh, and mac towntowntown.

Forgot that one.

Elaborate.

I will, but later. You'll see why. Let him get in here first.

think i'm just going to sheep venmar for the rest of the game

In post 3748, Ghostlin wrote:

In post 3736, Andrius wrote:@mala: If you think mastin is town, shouldn't you think venmar is town?

And yes mastin has a history of not voting his scumreads. Hence why he's scum!

Please stop this. Andy, short of sprouting sapphire dragon wings and flying off, I'm 1,000,000% sure that Mastin is Town. Convoluted at times, full of theories, but Town.

I disagree, but I'll keep my trap shut for the time being.

muffin wrote:it's rather odd that you can't tell how obvtown i am, or you're pretending you can't tell. if you think i'm scum, try to start a wagon on me. i want to see what reasons you can come up with and who joins you.

I don't think you're obvtown and I don't think mastin is obvtown so fucking sue me for not playing the TEEHEE games with whoever the fuck is obvtown today.

In post 3759, Venmar wrote:im really busy

but i had nice and loooooooooooooooooooooooong look at mac and i have decided the dude is town

vote: broseidon

one of these days
one of these goddamn days

TF wrote:Or if andy is softing what I think he's softing, i'd love to have that too.

ill trade
they wont let me play outside
i scare the other kids away

in other news
any excitement I had for this game is now gone

I don't even fucking know anymore
why am I even here

Aj The Epic Aug 12, 10:41am Sep 08, 04:27pm 3 days 10 hours 80

notscience Aug 12, 10:34am Sep 08, 02:12pm 3 days 12 hours 229

Mac Aug 12, 01:53pm Sep 06, 05:35am 5 days 21 hours 94

These three getting in here would help.

Half tempted to just sheep fferygif's reads list and update it only for claimed roles etc.



(Andy if you find us a role switcher i'm game, send away)

In post 3699, TiphaineDeath wrote:VOTE: mac

day three. tiphainedeath is still pursuing an out of date scumread, choosing to focus on something that happened over 100 pages ago rather than what's happening now. plz try harder.

In post 3713, zMuffinMan wrote: talk about the "way" mala has coasted and why it's "scummy"

very good question. alot of townies, myself included, became apathetic towards the end of the day yesterday. my reasoning was because no one was pushing mala with me at the time, and i was told to lynch nick and look at her tomorrow. gonna go over her posts a bit more in light of the nickflip when I get the time. i'm feeling muffin's frustration but I think mala could still be scum. is there a particular reason you don't want to lynch mala, muffin?

In post 3715, mastin2 wrote:VOTE: Mac.

someone is really going to have to sell me on mastin-town. after campaigning all of day one how this was not my scum-meta, mastin has now reversed his read. despite me also pushing his top scumread mala yesterday. your accusations of me "derailing" a mala lynch (HINT: THERE WAS NO WAGON TO DERAIL) because i was against ftl's gambit is bullshit at best.

speaking of gambits, FTL, did you ever lay out how that would've worked and how you could confirm nacho along with nick?

In post 3720, Andrius wrote:Since mastin is APPARENTLY off the table,

Vote: BROSEIDON

. Still like mala's reaction to LE DEADS, still want her to post reads and shit. I don't remember the last time BRO did anything so let's just start here.

brb updating readslist

I would prefer mastin over bro at this point

In post 3748, Ghostlin wrote:

In post 3736, Andrius wrote:@mala: If you think mastin is town, shouldn't you think venmar is town?

And yes mastin has a history of not voting his scumreads. Hence why he's scum!

Please stop this. Andy, short of sprouting sapphire dragon wings and flying off, I'm 1,000,000% sure that Mastin is Town. Convoluted at times, full of theories, but Town.

SELL IT TO ME GHOSTLIN. otherwise i might have to vote you today.

In post 3753, Ghostlin wrote:Well, we could start with Mac, who I've noticed is posting elsewhere but not here.

i made one post elsewhere. that was it. don't try and angle this to be scummy, thank you.

In post 3754, Trust Fund wrote:

In post 3753, Ghostlin wrote:Well, we could start with Mac, who I've noticed is posting elsewhere but not here.

I have ~reasons~ for mac-town as of today, fwiw.

<3

I like ~reasons~

In post 3759, Venmar wrote:im really busy

but i had nice and loooooooooooooooooooooooong look at mac and i have decided the dude is town

vote: broseidon

its about time. this doesn't clear you, but im a bit happier about you now. and there are more important people to deal with. and you'll probably be PL'd before lylo.

In post 3824, Trust Fund wrote: Hey nacho, hey mac, you're both feeling rather dull at the moment, apathetic even. So am I. Let's have some wonderful thread orgies or something, 'cuz I really would like you two to be town so I have somebody to follow.

I am here! we can try and convince nacho to come and play. and find scum. what do you think of desperado?

In post 3825, zMuffinMan wrote:ok, i'll get it up with you, ftl

Unvote
Vote: Trust Fund

nooo muffin this is so wrong. trust me for now that they are probably town. FTL is likely town too, but that doesn't mean they are right on TF.

In post 3831, Trust Fund wrote:I
Literally the only reason I'm back in the game right now of any strength is because of what happened last night. It made me care enough to get in here and post this musings and shit. I'll probably try getting back into the game tomorrow, but I just want you three knowing i'll be skipping at least half your shit.

why has it made you want to play the game again?

cabd, can you explain your meta on mastin?

I think it's key to say the ~reasons~ are that I neighbourised Trust Fund last night and we talked about reads and shit. both cabd and syr were happy to work with me, although the latter not so much (v/la I think?), so syr if you read this, can we finish our business from last night?

this is why I think they are town for now. i'm not completely sold yet, and I'd like to see more from you today.

until further notice.

complete side note but i fucking hate netbooks.

venmar, td, mac, ghostlin, ftl
andrius, mastin
muttley
trust fund
nacho
desperado, bro, aj, mala

something like that

In post 3832, Faster Than Light wrote:I feel you, as Metal Sonic has been pretty absent due to lots of course-work, cram-school, and labor on his end.

strong misrep varsoon, strong misrep.

the game was in night so i couldnt post etc

anyway desp is my extreme scumread for throwing gallon buckets of bs at my slot

I am disappointed with TF's play, I would've expected better play from cabd.(and syry), Nacho do you remember perpetual mylo? with Cabdscum going "apathy is a scumtell". yeah look at apathetic TF right over there big hands open


muffin town ghostlin town andy town and whatever varsoon just said.

so while vars has his #1 cumread at TF i have it at Desp

not much of a big deal

In post 3847, Faster Than Light wrote:#1 cumread

also pagetop time