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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:55 am
by Vaxkiller
I could prolly do a lala lynch now.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:00 am
by Ankamius
In post 3802, JarJarDrinks wrote:Who'd have thunk androids replacement would be more useless than android?
Man someone is sour today

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:19 am
by texcat
In post 3820, JarJarDrinks wrote:He retracted the claim the next day though.

The reason it's dumb to fakeclaim vig as scum is cause if there is a real vig out there then he will shoot you.

Retracting the claim the next day doesn't remove the reason for it being a terrible scum play.
Thanks. :facepalm: I get you. I was thinking that it was just because you'd be exposed sooner rather than later as fake. And Rob's explanation that it was Vax's appeal to emotion that made him town didn't help.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:20 am
by texcat
Now if I could just understand why people are town reading Mylo....

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:44 am
by Tchill13
In post 3823, Creature wrote:
In post 3806, JarJarDrinks wrote:Creature, why'd u leave the lala wagon?
It felt pointless.
Why did it feel pointless? Hopkirk and flavor both said she's scum. They're both confirmed town. Flavor was dead on with his weme read. Weme openly committed wifom to make sure scum were able to kill flavor (which means he was a huge threat).

I'm 99 percent sure flavor called out two scum members at least. If that's true I'd be willing to bet on lalendra the most out of his call outs.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:08 am
by Lalendra
In post 3824, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 3822, Lalendra wrote:Are there only two scum? Because it seems to me I have one more to find.
that was my point. you said were too busy looking for scum to defend yourself/. Wondering when the scumhunting was gonna start?
Do you have an actual question or are you just going to nitpick me to death?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:08 am
by Lalendra
In post 3829, Tchill13 wrote:I'm 99 percent sure flavor called out two scum members at least. If that's true I'd be willing to bet on lalendra the most out of his call outs.
I was starting to think you could actually read me tchill :(

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:49 am
by Hopkirk
In post 3723, Lalendra wrote:I'm not going to waste my time defending myself against the wagon that's forming, other than to say I'm town. I prefer to spend my time trying to find the actual scum. But I'll answer any questions people have.
Just quoting this.
So why is TBG scum for you, outside of last minute wagon related reasoning? Was he not a scumread before then? Who was?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:51 am
by Hopkirk
I can't tell if mylo is still here. If only there was someone who could tell us.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3663, Golden Robster wrote:
activity isn't alignment indicative and meta is shit reasoning
It is for Creature
and MU uses meta a lot and has significantly improved winrates to ms so I disagree with that

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3663, Golden Robster wrote:activity isn't alignment indicative and meta is shit reasoning
also this following the massive sample size is reading as a "nuh-uh you're wrong"

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:56 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3782, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 3780, Gamma Emerald wrote:The wagon always had a ton of votes
and I didn't like the way it just seemed to always go to him, sorta the same logic that made me dislike the performer wagon
also I think you may have the timeline wrong, I never voted wheme until I noted the inconsistency
fair enough

what do you think about dun right now?
I already said what my thoughts on him have been throughout the game
could you give a small case on dunn? And I promise to actually pay attention for it.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 am
by Hopkirk
In post 2904, Scioness Sajj wrote:town: flavor/hopkirk, kk, jarjar, etl (from d1, needs updating).
town???: mylo13, gamma, golden robster, penguinpower,
null: and everybody i forgot about
scum???: texcat, lalendra? (i can't tell how much of it it's peculiar posting style and how much is weird motions), andriod, wave (not really in lynchable pile, but doesn't fit anywhere else).

there is no 'scum' because this is based on pages 100-116 +what i remember thinking of slots from d1. i'd put andriod in scums since nobody is willing to explain their townread on it but it will do just fine in

VOTE: andriod18
When did you actually start townreading TBG? As far as I can tell it comes from nowhere around when I say we could always wagon TBG and you switch to the PP counterwagon.
That's despite there being any obvious evidence that you reread anything of TBG since you had him as neutral/not memorable enough for your reads list and I didn't get the impression you actually reread/reisod stuff after that.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3783, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 3781, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well it's a very easy to agree with stance, that's why it SHOULDN'T get a free pass. I don't SR mylo, in fact I think he's just barely on my townside, but I dislike foolish play.
mylo feels lynchbaity if anything
this is true
but that doesn't mean he should get a pass for a very easy gamestate analysis.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 am
by Hopkirk
PP was the counterwagon. TBG wasn't happening. Probably scum too.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3792, wavemode wrote:
In post 3787, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Scum usually bus at least one of their teammates in a game this large
you have statistics on this? there's almost certainly scum on his wagon, but to say he definitely bussed a teammate is a completely nonsensical assumption
not really stats but I've rolled scum and faced down scum in enough big games to know that they seem to get this headass idea that bussing incessantly is a good idea
no it's not, you'll get stuck in a PoE trap

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:01 am
by Creature
Too many scum to lynch

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:02 am
by Creature
This game is boring

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:02 am
by Creature
Call me when the obvscum are all gone

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:03 am
by Creature
I need to read my scientific bible now.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:04 am
by Hopkirk
In post 3034, Scioness Sajj wrote:not feeling those wagons today.
wheme over penguin, but we may have to go back to PP anyway.

VOTE: whemestar
In post 3096, Scioness Sajj wrote:After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
In post 3255, Scioness Sajj wrote:VOTE: penguinpower
Don't scumread tbg, nor do I want another claim.

Will switched if needed.
This looks more like scum who jumps off when Wheme fakeclaims than Dunn. Goes onto Wheme despite no stated scumread (from a loneish wagon) on Wheme, jumps off Wheme after the claim onto the Penguin counterwagon. Also the reluctancy in the initial Wheme vote (we'll probably go back to penguin)- despite not being on Penguin- sounds like someone planning to hop off/not comitted.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:04 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3820, JarJarDrinks wrote:He retracted the claim the next day though.

The reason it's dumb to fakeclaim vig as scum is cause if there is a real vig out there then he will shoot you.

Retracting the claim the next day doesn't remove the reason for it being a terrible scum play.
Actually the way it played out I see it as a good scum play. You die, tada you have confirmed a vig exists. You live, you know that there is not a vig. I will state if Vaxkiller is scum I'd expect a BIG scumteam, like 6-7, as being willing to make that sacrifice sorta implies that.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:05 am
by Hopkirk
Creature, are you disliking any of these lynches (Lalendra, Scion, TBG, maybe Pine)?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:07 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3824, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 3822, Lalendra wrote:Are there only two scum? Because it seems to me I have one more to find.
that was my point. you said were too busy looking for scum to defend yourself/. Wondering when the scumhunting was gonna start?
Wait Lalendra you seriously expect only 4 scum?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:08 am
by Creature
In post 3847, Hopkirk wrote:Creature, are you disliking any of these lynches (Lalendra, Scion, TBG, maybe Pine)?
No, at most am hesitant about TBG.