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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:53 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In post 3822, tenebrousluminary wrote: In post 3812, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 3809, DeasVail wrote: In post 3806, MalcolmTucker wrote:Like why is April's slot under so little pressure? It was heavily pushed on day one, Ari left the game, April came in, argued they weren't mafia based on their lack of posting, despite being a replace-in, then accused me and admitted they had no clue as to what was actually going on in the game while doing so, and yet has stuck to that wagon since. It's just such a nonsense case and it's ridiculous town are even contemplating it at the moment.
Did you ever pressure the slot?
(I honestly don’t remember and can’t easily check rn so it’s a genuine question)
Not until April posted regularly - I've stated before I thought Ari seemed genuine because I didn't think mafia would pressure the masons so hard, but April's read of me has been so weak and incoherent that I feel like it's borderline desperate mafia trying to build a case against someone else with little to go on.
Why would she be desperate?
A replace-in starting with a weak hand. Ari was under heavy suspicion until they backed out. Then April said little on turn one. Since then the slot has escaped suspicion.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:54 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In post 3817, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3793, fireisredsir wrote: In post 3789, VP Baltar wrote:If you think we are partners, why are you getting off my much bigger wagon?
i think it's a possibility. and cause i think april has cool ideas and im a big fan of the sudden unexpected wagon to see if it throws scum off their balance
This is fake as fuck
It genuinely might be the worst theory of the game so far and I've rated most of Fire's posts. You might be mafia. I know I'm not, but feck it, I get why it's sensible to apply some pressure. The idea we're mafia together is genuinely just incoherent.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:55 pm
by tenebrousluminary
My point being, why can't April simply take either the wagon against me or the one against VP, since she comes in to both sitting out on a silver platter?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:55 pm
by Nero Cain
I've made plenty of sense this game its just that it's been about you and you're pouting
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:56 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In post 3820, tenebrousluminary wrote: In post 3806, MalcolmTucker wrote:Like why is April's slot under so little pressure? It was heavily pushed on day one, Ari left the game, April came in, argued they weren't mafia based on their lack of posting, despite being a replace-in, then accused me and admitted they had no clue as to what was actually going on in the game while doing so, and yet has stuck to that wagon since. It's just such a nonsense case and it's ridiculous town are even contemplating it at the moment.
She is solving. Not exactly rocket science to piece together why she isn't getting votes.
Solving what exactly? Posting reads is what anyone else is doing. What is the turn one history of this slot being ignored entirely?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:58 pm
by DeasVail
My first impression from Malcolm’s reaction is that it comes from town but I will need some time to process.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:00 pm
by fireisredsir
i have the opposite impression, his reaction is what made me decide to switch
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:01 pm
by MathBlade
Last VC is hella old and I just did another extra long shift
Anyone wanna tell me approx what the vote spread is?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:01 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In a smaller game I could see mafia Malcolm pressuring VP a bit to create deliberate distance. But in a 15+ person game there is just absolutely no sense in me going through proper ISO hunts on VP if they are my teammate to try and higlight a possible mafia case when they are already under pressure. Whatever you think of us individually, the case for us as a team is just entirely non-existent.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:04 pm
by DeasVail
Something is very wrong then!
It will probably be a few hours at least before I can explain my thoughts.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:05 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3824, tenebrousluminary wrote:
He isn't actually, because that is hardly the main reasoning being used. Main pusher April does not even think that is what is happening.
No one is saying that's a reason to suspect Malcom. I'm saying fire isn't genuine given his flop off me, someone who he says is scum
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:06 pm
by MalcolmTucker
Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:06 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3828, Nero Cain wrote:
I've made plenty of sense this game its just that it's been about you and you're pouting
Nah, you are bad at mafia. It's fine. The stronger players will sort this game out.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:07 pm
by DeasVail
In post 3836, MalcolmTucker wrote:Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.
Your intense focus on the viability of a you-VP mafia team is very curious!
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:08 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In post 2449, MalcolmTucker wrote:VP's continual theory that Nero/Wu may have been mafia together and that Nero was potentially backing away from Wu because they were teammates really made no sense at all to me but they notably kept pushing it, in posts
1339,
1344,
1939 and
2128 to give just some examples.
It just doesn't chime. Nero was basically the first player in the game to mention that Wu was not contributing a heavy amount and that they were coming across as suspicious for it. I don't see why there'd be any benefit to throwing your teammate into the mix like that early in the game...in retrospect without that post it's quite possible there'd have never been a bandwagon against Wu at all in turn one.
I dunno, the way VP just kept pushing this felt strange, as if it was potential mafia who'd come up with a theory to push Nero/Wu and who felt like they couldn't drop it without seeming suspicious for doing so.
Again this was one of my first posts turn two. I have no reason to properly start mafia-casing VP this early having barely done so before. As a townie, my big readthrough (I had like 50 pages to catch up on) flipped VP from very null to potential mafia.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:09 pm
by Nero Cain
You just talk a big game but that's about all.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:09 pm
by MalcolmTucker
In post 3838, DeasVail wrote: In post 3836, MalcolmTucker wrote:Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.
Your intense focus on the viability of a you-VP mafia team is very curious!
I note you aren't addressing the points being made here.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:10 pm
by VP Baltar
VOTE: fireisred
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:12 pm
by DeasVail
In post 3841, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 3838, DeasVail wrote: In post 3836, MalcolmTucker wrote:Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.
Your intense focus on the viability of a you-VP mafia team is very curious!
I note you aren't addressing the points being made here.
?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:12 pm
by DeasVail
Nooooo not my vibe buddy!
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:13 pm
by DeasVail
In post 3843, DeasVail wrote: In post 3841, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 3838, DeasVail wrote: In post 3836, MalcolmTucker wrote:Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.
Your intense focus on the viability of a you-VP mafia team is very curious!
I note you aren't addressing the points being made here.
?
What would be the point of me getting into an argument with you over whether you could or could not possibly be mafia with VP?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:15 pm
by fireisredsir
i don't get why you're so hung up on the VP partner thing lol, i mentioned it as an aside to april cause i think it's a possibility. it's not and wasn't ever my reason for switching, and i never said it was
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:15 pm
by VP Baltar
If you're town!fire, and you see scum!vp at fucking E-2, do you ditch that wagon and then say "lol, this lim wasn't going to happen"?
That's insane! You barely have to do any kind of convincing to finish my lim at that point. Fire doesn't believe in what they are saying. These are votes of convenience and popularity. Fire is going with the flow and using other people's suspicions to drive his own, as I stated in my wagon analysis.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:16 pm
by VP Baltar
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:17 pm
by DeasVail
What if I don’t mind that though?