Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

Short Version
1. Dram targeted TheTrollie N6, and he only targeted TheTrollie N6. Dram is lying, my action was messed with, or dram's action was messed with.
2. One of the unflipped scum may be a ninja.

TheTrollie died N6, right????

Am I missing something?

[zoraster]

I am pretty awesome, and you're cornered scum. Logic here should tell you that a townie confirming me as town from the mod assures that I am town. The alternative is a hugely twisted attempt to find ways that it wouldn't happen. I appreciate the attempt given process of elimination leads to you, but it's pretty eye rollingly contrived.

I think it's time to decide whether to lynch dram or dgb, JK the other. Iec has the power here, so I think Iec chooses who goes first.

By the way,

Iec

if for some reason we lynch town (i.e. if zoid is scum instead of whoever we lynch), don't JK at all. From scum's perspective, if they assume you're town, that'll assure that scum are basically forced to crosskill or else they face a losing game.

[dramonic]

I am pretty awesome, and you're cornered scum. Logic here should tell you that a townie confirming me as town from the mod assures that I am town. The alternative is a hugely twisted attempt to find ways that it wouldn't happen. I appreciate the attempt given process of elimination leads to you, but it's pretty eye rollingly contrived.

I think it's time to decide whether to lynch dram or dgb, JK the other. Iec has the power here, so I think Iec chooses who goes first.

By the way,

Iec

if for some reason we lynch town (i.e. if zoid is scum instead of whoever we lynch), don't JK at all. From scum's perspective, if they assume you're town, that'll assure that scum are basically forced to crosskill or else they face a losing game.

Please dont ignore my post completely, kthx

[DrippingGoofball]

Logic here should tell you that a townie confirming me as town from the mod assures that I am town.

That's what you hope for.

Om never gave the wording of the message.

YOU are cornered scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Really, I was mostly just bullshitting to put dram in an awkward position,

yeah, and that and the claim stalling.

[zoraster]

Could also be a dreaming god ability for all we know.

Zoidberg cant be mafia

If iece isn't town we're entirely fucked.

DGB could be either really.

If DGB flips sk, one of me or zoraster is mafia. Mod has confirmed block cant be redirected, so I say I should be jked. That way, if you think I'm scum I can't shoot someone and quicklynch zor, and if its zor the quicklynch thing won't happen.

If dgb flips mafia redirector, that will prove I didn't lie about my action to iece and it puts the sk between zoid and zor. Block zoid for same reason you'd block me.

If dgb flips mafia anything else, I'm super confused.

if dgb flips town, iece should probably not act and hope scumkills.


Thoughts

sorry, missed it with all of the noise from DGB.

From my perspective, this only worries me because of the off chance you might be strongman or something.

That said, the chance of seeing if DGB is mafia redirector is interesting as this would in some way validate you, though obviously not totally.

[zoraster]

Really, I was mostly just bullshitting to put dram in an awkward position,

yeah, and that and the claim stalling.

you'll have to tell me after the game whether you're actually incapable of telling the difference between solid evidence and slight scum-read type "evidence" or if you're just playing this up.

[Iecerint]

@ DGB -- I do not understand that you think you could be missing...yes, dram either killed Trollie, or shenanigans happened to make it look that way.

But if dramScum killed Trollie, his plan for D7 was to frame and lynch Zora. This seems like a crappy scumplan, 's the main reason I'm entertaining the latter.

@ dram/zora -- Yeah, I know.

[dramonic]

my grand master plan was to spend the entire D6 trying to get trollie lynched and saying its fucking retarded to nightkill trollie for scum, and THEN to kill him
I love contradicting myself <3

[zoraster]

i mean, that seems a pretty coherent scum strategy?

[dramonic]

Not if one is convinced that trollie will mislynch.

[zoraster]

sometimes scum say one thing and believe another. not really a surprise there. especially if scum think it'll set up this type of argument.

[zoraster]

can we review why zoidberg "can't" be the scum?

[Zoidberg]

Because I'm not in dram's QT.

[dramonic]

can we review why zoidberg "can't" be the scum?

Under the premise that dgb got dick and I got redirected and two kills happened.
He can be sk though

[zoraster]

so couldn't he have redirected and killed last night? i guess it'd be pretty weird to have a mafia fruit vendor, but not unheard of.

[Zoidberg]

so couldn't he have redirected and killed last night? i guess it'd be pretty weird to have a mafia fruit vendor, but not unheard of.

I could have vended fruit and killed, but not vended fruit, redirected, and also killed. Unless I was a multi-targeting, fruit-vending, scum redirector.

[zoraster]

did i miss who got your fruit last night?

[dramonic]

Dgb did

[Zoidberg]

Assuming of course Dram actually was redirected.

[dramonic]

If I wasnt im either mafia, in whica case you aren't, or sk, in which case I have no reason to try to avert suspicion grok you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Do we have any evidence of any action having been redirected?

[dramonic]

All you have is my word for it.
Its very compelling.

[DrippingGoofball]

[paranoia]Could Iecerint-scum have an occasional redirection in his nightly arsenal? Because if there was a consecrated redirector, we'd have seen evidence of it already.[/paranoia]

[zoraster]

could, but as he's pretty much provided us our only proactive way of winning (as opposed to praying for cross kills), we're kind of left with no choice.