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Aright so here we go. Based on his 2605 I don't think SAD is an MS buddy. Coming in to the game voting your buddy with your first post feels unlikely. And the fact that MS doesn't disappear from his list kind of confirms this.

Gif's slow switch from scumread-townread on MS if either VERY well done scumbuddy, or more likely no connection.

Bro's 2892 catch's my interest as potentially a buddy tell. Telling two fighting players they are town from a position of relative power when one of them is your buddy is often a scumtell.

Spinach's description of MS in his first big post again, like SAD makes me think he isn't an MS buddy.

So the scumteams should look like either

Red: MS/Bro
Blue: Nacho

or

Red:Nacho/Bro
Blue: MS

Aint that hilarious? I still find it more likely that MS is blue here. The amount of relational tells between MS and orc/rach is far more than anything I have found for him with anyone still living.

But then there's still the stupid fucking both of them yelling "VOTE ME VOTE ME" if ms is blue, which makes absolutely no sense!

I think I have to go with the idea that as scum they would not be screaming for me to be voting them at this stage in the game, even theory based, even town point based, they wouldn't be doing that. I still think they're both scum so MS has to be red and Nacho has to be blue. I am not at all confident in my read on bro. He's ended up in my scumpile by POE both times.

UNVOTE: VOTE: nacho.

Killing blue is right today. nacho has been arguing that we should be killing red, thus he is blue. MS has been agreeing with me, thus he is red. Nacho is the right kill today.

I'll go ISO GIF again spinach, see what I can find.

Sorry I just went back and looked at GIF for a good long while. I'm not seeing a significant difference between his pre two dead blue scum and post two dead blue scum play. Am I blink spinach, are you gambiting? Help me out here.

In post 3852, TiphaineDeath wrote:Sorry I just went back and looked at GIF for a good long while. I'm not seeing a significant difference between his pre two dead blue scum and post two dead blue scum play. Am I blink spinach, are you gambiting? Help me out here.

While I do enjoy a good gambit, no. There's no need for it.

In post 3815, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because

im sheeping nacho

your reads are lazy and inconsistent.

Explain your sajin vote.

Speaking of sajin, where is he?

In post 3817, GuyInFreezer wrote:Wait. He's not here anymore
I don't remember him dying/lynched?
Brb

In post 3821, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh he died n3.

He didn't even know Sajin was dead. That's completely missing the last 3 game cycles, and likely this cycle as well. Town has to keep up with the game. The last of a scum team doesn't.

A) He didn't even know Sajin was dead.

B) That's completely missing the last 3 game cycles, and likely this cycle as well.

There's a BIG gap between A and B. Explain how me not noticing Sajin's death connects to me missing 3 WHOLE game cycles.

@TD: You got it backwards. I had townread on MS and scumread on MS now.

@Andrius: ↓ means scum, ↑ means town, and ↨ means null in that read list.

You summed it up quite well yourself, but I'll try to lend some insight. It takes your full ISO from that point to this, so I'll leave that for others to look at instead of quoting it all here. The only things you've discussed are either whatever flavor of the moment that you decided to sheep, which requires little to no reading or shit that happened days ago.

Going through your ISO again, this raised an eyebrow as well. I noted it before, but had forgotten it all together.

In post 3444, GuyInFreezer wrote:

In post 3426, spinachattack wrote:

In post 3410, GuyInFreezer wrote:Um didn't spinach had me as scum before?

Yes, I had you in my scum pile at one point. Are you really complaining that I found reason to take you out of it?

˜wayne

Magical out-of-nowhere read changes always makes me go paranoid.

I've never seen anyone be so paranoid over someone having a town read on them. It's like you thought I was lulling you to sleep so you would drop your guard only to have the rug pulled out from under you or something. It wasn't what I intended at the time, but nice foreshadowing!

In post 3857, spinachattack wrote:I've never seen anyone be so paranoid over someone having a town read on them.

I did.

In post 3857, spinachattack wrote:I've never seen anyone be so paranoid over someone having a town read on them.

Actually hold on a sec. I think I understood you wrong there.

What I said there was that I don't like lolreadchange. Why are you misrepping it into me being paranoid over me being townread?

Magical out-of-nowhere read changes always

makes me go paranoid.

And, where did I misrep you?

You said I get paranoid over someone town reading me, while what I said was I get paranoid over sudden read changes with no explanation.

How is it not a misrep?

I was reading you as town at the time. You called me out on it. Twice. And then you went on to say it made you paranoid. What am I missing?

After several massive failures to catch up, I'm going to do a full reread of the thread in a bit, skimming most of the beginning. Wish me luck. I'll make some posts soon.

The fact that your read switched without providing a reason at that time.

Also does TMT ever post, spinach?

Good enough.

He hasn't posted in quite a while. Either here or in the QT

GiF's avatar and posting style just makes me want to give him the benefit of the doubt

lets just get on nacho/TD

I've been on TD for ages

In post 3863, spinachattack wrote:After several massive failures to catch up, I'm going to do a full reread of the thread in a bit, skimming most of the beginning. Wish me luck. I'll make some posts soon.

That was TMT though.

Waiting for Andy. No need to rush and he may come up with something others have missed.

How's that coming Andy?

Gif as a nacho scumbuddy? Doesn't make any sense as an MS one...

Lynch for today is still MS or Nacho.

In post 3818, Nachomamma8 wrote:Right, but that doesn't explain your scumfeels on me over TD. He was arguing we should try to lynch the last blue scum, I was arguing we should try to lynch one of the reds. Why did you believe I was blue scum trying to get the town to lynch red but you didn't think TD was redscum trying to get the town to lynch blue?

Umm...

In post 3753, BROseidon wrote:Okay don't like Nacho much after the Nacho/TD exchange. Still confidant on TD/SAD scum (both red, I think), not sure if the last one (blue) is Nacho or MS or maybe GiF.

Also my vote has been on TD for a while.

TD are your scumreads of Nacho and MS of equal strength?

In post 3869, spinachattack wrote:Waiting for Andy. No need to rush and he may come up with something others have missed.

How's that coming Andy?

Don't expect anything before tomorrow night.
That's the first time I'll have time to dump into this.

No, my scumread on MS is stronger, but I think Nacho is the blue scum, so he's gotta go.

Otherwise as I said there are two scum yelling lynch me, which seems unlikely.