Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Dannflor]

Because your posts have been townie and you seem actively invested in progressing the game.

Is there anything more specific than this

[Dannflor]

I think the interactions make xtoxm look way worse than buj

elaborate?

[Prince of Renais]

hey grapes i remember you being obvtown as town
you made 3 posts and dont look obvtown yet
step it up

Page 11

[Ankamius]

Look back to where Shoshin/DT were the primary wagons.

BuJ was on the Shoshin wagon first, and grapes hopped onto the wagon later with awkward justification tacked on. He didn't want to look opportunistic with hopping on that wagon since he had to have known that if that had gone through, the wagon would have been put under a microscope by the rest of the town and his vote would stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.

I assume grapes panicked when the BuJ wagon started up, because his vote on there was much more aggressive and 'emotional' than the rest of his posting.

grapes then vanished from the thread and held his vote on the BuJ wagon, which was relatively safe to do since it wasn't really moving and worst case, he'd look better if it DID start gaining traction towards a lynch because of how aggressive he was.

grapes pretty blatantly panicked when the wagon on him started, the post he made trying to attack eagle is proof enough of that.

Finally, BuJ's vote on grapes had that same weird justification, like he was more worried about how he appeared after the vote than actually lynching a scumread.

[Prince of Renais]

re; https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10785600

Alisae it feels a bit early for you give up trying to read me altogether?
I understand that grapes are inanimate objects but I am not.
Why the blind faith in xtom?

Cuz now that it's relevant and I'm thinking about it the couple games I've played with him was him-scum me-town... and gameboy advance mafia where he lead a mislynch on me...

VOTE: xtoxm

"Why the blind Faith in xtoxm" is such SvS phrasing

[Ankamius]

Prince where is the scumread on Xtoxm coming from exactly?

[Prince of Renais]

Are you reading anything I post?

[Jingle]

No, not really.

[Prince of Renais]

I appreciate the honesty.

[Ankamius]

is it entirely from interactions with grapes?

my townread on them is from their direct posting

[Dannflor]

For me I've been having a hard time separating which parts of your push on him was an emotional response to his attack on your person vs. a genuine scum read

[Prince of Renais]

I don't think it's towny to refuse to engage with the thread outside of calling the towniest person in the game scum and I don't think that you should either.

[Vedith]

hey grapes i remember you being obvtown as town
you made 3 posts and dont look obvtown yet
step it up

Do you mean this, Prince?
From page 11 I mean.

[Dannflor]

it's not towny no

but I feel like scum would feel pressured to interact/do more than that here though

[Prince of Renais]

For me I've been having a hard time separating which parts of your push on him was an emotional response to his attack on your person vs. a genuine scum read

Which is why I think he's scum btw

I ignored the whole grr let's lynch POR

But when he called jingle scum by association for not wanting to lynch me when he seems totally lucid about the fact that it's a policy lynch, nah.

And even without that, not really a slot to keep alive

[Prince of Renais]

it's not towny no

but I feel like scum would feel pressured to interact/do more than that here though

Everyone called them town for it

Why fix it if it ain't broke etc etc etc

[Dannflor]

Liger, where does your town read on xtoxm come from?

[Ankamius]

:/

[Liger_Zero]

Are you reading anything I post?

No, not really.

[Liger_Zero]

Liger, where does your town read on xtoxm come from?

His reaction to Prince

[Prince of Renais]

If you think you're better than me then go ahead and lynch your pet scumreads and we'll see what they flip.

[Liger_Zero]

Look back to where Shoshin/DT were the primary wagons.

BuJ was on the Shoshin wagon first, and grapes hopped onto the wagon later with awkward justification tacked on. He didn't want to look opportunistic with hopping on that wagon since he had to have known that if that had gone through, the wagon would have been put under a microscope by the rest of the town and his vote would stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.

I assume grapes panicked when the BuJ wagon started up, because his vote on there was much more aggressive and 'emotional' than the rest of his posting.

grapes then vanished from the thread and held his vote on the BuJ wagon, which was relatively safe to do since it wasn't really moving and worst case, he'd look better if it DID start gaining traction towards a lynch because of how aggressive he was.

grapes pretty blatantly panicked when the wagon on him started, the post he made trying to attack eagle is proof enough of that.

Finally, BuJ's vote on grapes had that same weird justification, like he was more worried about how he appeared after the vote than actually lynching a scumread.

Good solid case. I will Buj to my short scum list

[Liger_Zero]

If you think you're better than me then go ahead and lynch your pet scumreads and we'll see what they flip.

Sounds good

[Ankamius]

Prince do you think Xtoxm would have that same type of response without the raw emotion behind it

like he had that exact same mindset in Anuket (only engaging to call me scum) except he's a lot less emotional in this one than he was in that game

[Dannflor]

Liger, where does your town read on xtoxm come from?

His reaction to Prince

Are you referring to this post or something else?

Spoiler:

projection much lol

if you want to play against your win condition and attempt to grudge lynch me then fine. it's been established several times that it's not against the MS rules. just be honest to yourself and others about who you are.

ive already made this abundantly clear
but you continue to replace into my games on alts to try and deceive me

i dont want to play with you
fuck off

on a human level you are a disgusting person
shame khan didnt have enough evidence

VOTE: prince