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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:16 pm
by Bell
Bell used Borjerfkin.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:08 pm
by Toogeloo
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

I'd rather this than Bell.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:03 am
by Bell
In post 3848, Bell wrote:
In post 3847, Bell wrote:
In post 3845, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 3780, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots


would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.
this is a horrible idea as I think we're all town!

(Dunn less so)
Will try as I don't know what conclusions I'll reach. Or whether I'll get the full story. I'm still processing this. Even 7 days is only enough for elo to be confident in a win I think(may I never, ever lose an elo game after all that work, I imagine that's why other players avoid it enough that they ask to die before they make it, like in illicit)
In post 3846, pichu wrote:
In post 3427, Bell wrote:This is just gunna keep happening this is the kind of interaction we have and why I didn't want to go back and keep having to pick over all the misunderstandings and assumptions and plain blips and misses you do when you case people as leaf persona.
I still think you're town on the off chance you aren't a mason
,
I retract it because there's such a thing as bad play and then there's killing a detective while fake acting like a mason
.
In post 3689, Bell wrote:Solve is as follows:

Mason: Pichu, if not mason eliminate for the holes in his pushes and his bullshit. He tried to speed eliminate here and it was just bad play all around. This is in part why I also pushed MC for Noraa. I had info it wasn't accessible. I tried to appear lackadaisical didn't work.
Detective was a role that got more powerful as it happened.

DBT pretty much open wolfed scum cased.

Dunstral was odd around Nk15, but I couldn't write about it.
ahem
first post i'm still town if not Mason
second i should be power elimmed if not Mason
need to remember your stances better Bell
*chip* that was a typo that I didn't bother to correct when I noticed it while rereading *chip*

+++
Was reading some. First aid in a few hours so I won't be able to get back to this in earnest until around 8 hours to be genuine.
To give a kind example to Pichu about his flaws and to note the plaster issue. If town this game. I will take time here because this is actually classic. I was so exhausted, I just half blurted what I meant, but I genuinely doubt he even got it and just conf biased himself into his own narrative loop. It wasn't even from first post to second post.
I contradicted myself in the first post alone.
Something was up, in this case exhaustion and you know, not a perfect human being. See colors green and red.
this sort of confirmation bias is a bad sign for accuracy.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:23 am
by Creature
Was the Bell v DEB thing resolved?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:40 am
by Blade Dancer
Official Vote Count 2.10


Polar Bear Express
(1): MURDERCAT
Creature
: (2) Spiffeh, Solstice, Dunnstral, Toogelo
Bell
(7): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake, Double the Trouble
Double the Trouble
(1): Bell
Spiffeh
(1): Creature

Not Voting
(1):
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:08 am
by pichu
oooor Bell you contradicted yourself because you're scum lazily fabricating thought processes rather than them being real ones
you're kind of scumcasing yourself now

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:44 am
by pichu
(at the very least contradicting yourself like that in the same post is scum-indicative because it's a lot easier to slip up when you're exhausted and the take is fake rather than when you're exhausted and the take is real)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:47 am
by pichu
In post 3780, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
hard-leashing vig to dunn-spiff-noraa for possible shots


would be good if you tell us who out of those 3 are like baddies.
upon Bell redflip:
Dunny probably town
spiffeh very possibly scum - good shot
Polar Bear hydra - Gloria's continued absence is still creeping me out
@Gloria: are you not feeling this game in particular, and why?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:53 am
by pichu
occam's razor though it's more like Bell is whitenighting over doing some Galaxy brain weird hard buddy on a scum partner - scum usually aren't so bold to do that
i advocate a spiffeh shot for how he's not really taken a stance on Bell other than saying my case is valid
and his main take today has been pushing Creature for lack of content

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:55 am
by pichu
In post 3312, Spiffeh wrote:Bell's not really one I want to consider any further today, I feel like if Bell were scum he would come up with a more useful thing to claim to ensure he survives the day? Especially with Flavor Leaf in his corner
oh this was a stance
very iffy
disregarding all the reasons to think Bell is scum just because of some WIFOM?
very unDonnie-like

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:56 am
by Double the Trouble
In post 3858, pichu wrote:i advocate a spiffeh shot for how he's not really taken a stance on Bell other than saying my case is valid
and his main take today has been pushing Creature for lack of content
I agree with this take, i don't know Spiffeh personally. But Alisae tells me their game is usually pretty good. So if Bell!scum then it could very likely be Spiffeh acknowledging the push on a scum partner and then suggesting we vote Creature. Which would point more to Creature!town.

- Norwee

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:57 am
by pichu
agreed

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:58 am
by Double the Trouble
In post 3861, pichu wrote:agreed
*Nod nod*
Agreed on your agreement.

- Norwee

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:14 am
by Double the Trouble
I'm at Pichu/Solstice/Mastina as my strongest townreads so far.
Leantown is Ydrasse/Easy Bake/Murdercat/Ircher/Creature/Toogeloo.
Leanscum: Dunnstral/Polar Bear Express
Scumreads: Bell/Spiffeh

This is assuming Bell!scum. If Bell is town i'd probably put some slots further down. Mastina would be leantown and Easy Bake null for example.

- Norwee

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:16 am
by Double the Trouble
I'm not too sure about Toogeloo actually, but Alisae said they think they have been town so i'm going with their read on that for now until i get a better feel on them myself.

- Norwee

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:41 am
by Spiffeh
What is Alisae's read on me right now?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:42 am
by Spiffeh
If I am ACTUALLY vigged tonight town deserves to lose lmao

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:51 am
by Spiffeh
I still think it's unlikely Bell flips scum lol

What does that do to your preflip associatives guys?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:51 am
by Spiffeh
Wait

What exactly is Bell claiming and what exactly is DEB claiming?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:55 am
by Spiffeh
If Alisae is scum reading me here Double Trouble could be scum after all

If Alisae is advocating a VIG.on me that slot should be flashwagoned immediately upon my flip

Idk if they are because I'm like 30 pages behind but there's no way Alisae sheds eir hard town read on me from Day 1 and advocates a vig on me because of my absence today

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:55 am
by MURDERCAT
catching up from 137, I have been reading random posts but haven't really understood what is going on

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:57 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 3428, pichu wrote:how are people not gonna be convinced at this point
Does this have any numerical meaning or is it just numbers in a table?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:58 am
by Spiffeh
In post 3870, MURDERCAT wrote:catching up from 137, I have been reading random posts but haven't really understood what is going on
aw twins

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:58 am
by MURDERCAT
I don't think Toog or Bell should be the elim today.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:59 am
by Spiffeh
If Bell is claiming Tracker and DEB is claiming regular old cop then this is PERFECTLY REASONABLE PAIR OF INVESTIGATIVES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SCUM POWER THERE IS

I don't know why the fuck DEB would claim here without a guilty unless he is also a Tracker