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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:02 am
by Metal Sonic
I'm hesitant about boon because my slot can confirm the existence of his power. Though I wouldn't rule out a scum inventor as impossible, it doesn't seem logical or common setup-wise. In contrast, I can definitely see if Egg was a scum roleblocker instead.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:04 am
by Metal Sonic
Ffery was scum in xenoblade and I don't remember the details of it, but she and her hydra partner spammed 500 posts in day 1 alone. I don't know how mollie caught her, but she did, and ffery got eliminated early .
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:06 am
by serrapaladin
I think I never answered this:
↑ Egg wrote:Serra, how do you propose I confirm myself?
But when it's convenient for egg, he claims that he can indeed prove his role:
↑ Egg wrote:You guys realize my role is semi provable right?
And as scum, I'd have been blocking Boon.
Like the scum JOAT argument is the first decent one I've heard all game.
I mean I hate the idea of blocking town power just to prove my role, but I could do it instead of being lynched
Or is it better for me to be lynched instead of living to LYLO and getting lynched there?
where, of course, the problem is that a) scum may an RB, and b) scum can just kill egg's target.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:07 am
by serrapaladin
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:I'm hesitant about boon because my slot can confirm the existence of his power. Though I wouldn't rule out a scum inventor as impossible, it doesn't seem logical or common setup-wise. In contrast, I can definitely see if Egg was a scum roleblocker instead.
What have you been told about your 1-shot ability so far?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:20 am
by Metal Sonic
↑ serrapaladin wrote: ↑ Metal Sonic wrote:I'm hesitant about boon because my slot can confirm the existence of his power. Though I wouldn't rule out a scum inventor as impossible, it doesn't seem logical or common setup-wise. In contrast, I can definitely see if Egg was a scum roleblocker instead.
What have you been told about your 1-shot ability so far?
To my knowledge it's positive utility.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:21 am
by serrapaladin
go on...
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:22 am
by serrapaladin
you haven't been told what it is?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:22 am
by Metal Sonic
However, it's late in the game, so I don't know how much use it can have in the remaining time.
I can neighborize someone tonight, and I will get to communicate with them beginning the next day, with daytalk. One Shot Neighborizer. I haven't decided who to neighborize. Probably the conftown, of course.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:22 am
by Metal Sonic
i mean you
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:22 am
by serrapaladin
Cool, just checking. eye had already claimed that, I think.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:23 am
by serrapaladin
It's probably not useful to neighbourise me, actually.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:26 am
by Metal Sonic
↑ serrapaladin wrote:It's probably not useful to neighbourise me, actually.
I'll think about it.
So yeah, that's a fact. I don't know if scum-boonskies-inventor would be giving out helpful-town stuff like that.
So far, all the inventors that I have seen which give random/flavor inventions and don't know what it can do, have been town.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:27 am
by Metal Sonic
Only two games though, so that's a tiny sample size.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:29 am
by Metal Sonic
↑ serrapaladin wrote:Cool, just checking. eye had already claimed that, I think.
i didn't bother to ISO you, by the way. you're conftown too.
Right now I think that nachohydra is most likely to be scum.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:31 am
by serrapaladin
Since it's gonna be in our interest for you to claim your target tomorrow, it's probably best used as a fruit vendor.
Boon is still floating around peoples' "would lynch" lists, so I might well die.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:33 am
by Metal Sonic
I dunno.... there's an ongoing problem to solve. choosing a good neighbor is more easy/straightforward, lol
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:34 am
by Metal Sonic
Egg's claim that he is able to prove his role is useless. He can be a scum roleblocker and do the same. What is the meaning?
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:35 am
by Metal Sonic
Everyone has already claimed, right? Egg, if he is town, should block one of the scummier "VT"s. Of course, if we find out that he has stopped a kill, we lynch his guilty and get a conftown on Egg. Win-win.
If Egg isn't town, the argument is moot anyway.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:53 am
by serrapaladin
Problem is, there's no potential outcome that would actually confirm egg. Blocking you or boon from using your role only proves that egg (or one of his buddies) is an RB. A missing kill would be WIFOM central - I'm not happy to have egg's path to victory be as easy as holding his kill and taking credit.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:57 am
by serrapaladin
Hmm, actually, I guess even numbers mean scum wouldn't necessarily want to hold their kill.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:12 am
by Metal Sonic
If the person we lynch... is not scum, we know that Egg's result is false.
It is not WIFOM central, the scum merely no-kill and we just mislynch someone. But since we no-lynched on Day 1, the benefits gained by scum with this method is minimal.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:23 am
by serrapaladin
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:If the person we lynch... is not scum, we know that Egg's result is false.
But scum could hold their kill even if Egg is town.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:26 am
by Metal Sonic
↑ serrapaladin wrote: ↑ Metal Sonic wrote:If the person we lynch... is not scum, we know that Egg's result is false.
But scum could hold their kill even if Egg is town.
Holding their kill brings them no benefit for the first night. Because we no-lynched day 1, the numbers will make it so that we'll have mylo anyway
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:00 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:Specifically the -> mislynch f16 then kill egg and nacho
I think did I get that right
You got that wrong.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:02 am
by serrapaladin
If you get say over the next 2 lynches, can we lynch you today?