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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:17 pm
by Raskolnikov
no, that's explicitly non-normal. normal guidelines say all flips of death have to be the same regardless of what caused it (maf, sk, wolf, vig)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:19 pm
by the worst
In post 3874, Jingle wrote:Loud modifier is almost certainly the doc who doesn't need to out at the moment.
this 100% needs to out because we have unexplained nights with no loud actions received

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:20 pm
by the worst
the potential for, for example, a loud mafia tracker are WAY too high for FPS. sorry but this has gotta happen.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:20 pm
by Jingle
No, I meant the teams themselves.

Option is to be two mafias or a mafia and a werewolf team. I want to know if there are two mafias, would we be able to tell should a member of mafia A and a member of mafia B be killed.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:21 pm
by the worst
I know that's kinda funny bc I've been fps my modifier alllllllll game but like... sue me :lol:

pedit: yes they expressly need to have different faction names I believe (e.g. maf/ww, two family names, etc.)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by Jingle
I mean... It's Rask.

It's been Rask for like three day phases.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by Raskolnikov
indistinguishable teams wouldnt be normal

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:23 pm
by Raskolnikov
irrelephant its time to claim I guess

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:23 pm
by the worst
In post 3880, Jingle wrote:I mean... It's Rask.

It's been Rask for like three day phases.
have I missed something really dumb

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:23 pm
by the worst
thought Taly claimed VT?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:25 pm
by Jingle
So, all of the players have to be flipped of the same team.

Therefore, in order for the game to be winnable for town with a 4 person scum team remaining, there has to be a town TW AND a town Chick. You're town. I'm town. So a four person scumteam would have to be Ausuka, bh, Nos, Irrelephant.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:25 pm
by the worst
Ausuka would then have to be a disloyal fruit vendor

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:26 pm
by Raskolnikov
a scumteam that never shoots anyone

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:27 pm
by the worst
but that's...... roughly close

plus if we're looking at one scumteam Nos is 100% the last scum
and if I'm scum I'm very very obviously not aligned so

powerlynch Nos
I'll NK on leash

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:27 pm
by Raskolnikov
what does that remind me of

oh yeah the Pirates Who Don't Do Anything

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:27 pm
by the worst
LMFAO

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:28 pm
by Jingle
But the vegetable version or the Relient K version?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:29 pm
by Raskolnikov
In post 3885, Jingle wrote:So, all of the players have to be flipped of the same team.

Therefore, in order for the game to be winnable for town with a 4 person scum team remaining, there has to be a town TW AND a town Chick. You're town. I'm town. So a four person scumteam would have to be Ausuka, bh, Nos, Irrelephant.
mmm in that case although the game is "technically not unwinnable" its like pretty much unwinnable in practice

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:30 pm
by the worst
except brassy has bp
I have bp

it's like...... a far cry but not less than 10% winnable at random :P

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:31 pm
by the worst
Irrespective

Lynch player with highest scum equity? thx

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:33 pm
by the worst
with respect to distrusting brass' claim like....theyre different fundamentally so..... no I didn't really distrust it

also if Q1 2018 creature posted 5 times in a row then hard claimed nk immune miller vig guess what? he's a nk immune miller vig for real

brass is almost certainly town by play so even if the role was a lie I'd trust it to be a reasoned gambit lol

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:38 pm
by Jingle
So who is your proposed scumteam, TW?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:38 pm
by Jingle
UNVOTE:

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:39 pm
by Raskolnikov
In post 3848, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 3724, HeWhoSwims wrote:My info is that all of the roles that aren't vanilla, have something to do with the new normal rules (eg Hider, specific night, fruit vendor, activated were all whitelisted
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=76192

I don't see X-shot being related to any of those new normal rules :(
@EVERY PLAYER
read over this and HWS post and see there is something in there
I'm not seeing it though I'm tipsy and tired so give it all the pairs of eyes please

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:40 pm
by the worst
In post 3896, Jingle wrote:So who is your proposed scumteam, TW?
I think Nos probably flips red and finishes this garbo tbh