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Post Post #3875 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:38 pm

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In post 1719, Firebringer wrote:I could go for norwee, but im not lynching HEM.

my all star end game group is still:
u/hem/gc/isis
gotta pour two out for our homies.
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Post Post #3876 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:42 pm

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Spoiler: looker shifts momentum away from Norwegian-cw by voting Ali for bad/no reasons
In post 1732, Looker wrote:
In post 1727, Looker wrote:
In post 1451, Alisae wrote:like looking at VCs a bit more, it does seem like ABR just didn’t want to bus Cycle Men.
In your opinion, how AI is a hammer?
In post 1629, Alisae wrote:What I am trying to get across is that Looker knows how I play as scum and should be able to identify the difference between that game and this game.
I know how you play with a single, shitty scum partner (hurling thinly-veiled insults at me in thread :lol: ), and with no daytalk.
In post 1642, Alisae wrote:no you're not
I want you to actually explain why that is scummy
Game aside, some players are
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In post 1703, Alisae wrote:Looker is a very easy read
when I was scum with him he didn't even make any real attempts to solve or play the game and when we were town together he correctly identified scum!noms in a way that was confident and he believed in himself and was actively trying to poke other slots and try to find the motivations of others.
I see the exact samething I did in that game in here.
I'm very susceptible to ego strokes.

  • It's nearly impossible to keep up with all this

  • @Green Crayons: I like the way you think. My signature's that way for a reason. You're validating my suspicions of Amrun, skitter30, nomnomnom, and so many other players that V/LA or get "angry" conveniently. You're definitely not alone on that one.
  • @Firebringer: Are you taking into account individual players' post counts as either alignment?
EBWOP: VOTE: Alisae
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Votecount 3.6


TargetWagon
Alisae
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humaneatingmonkey (), votato (), NorwegianboyEE (), Looker ()
NorwegianboyEE
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Elements (), Alisae (), Firebringer ()
Not Voting
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Deimos27, Green Crayons, Isis

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-15 23:33:59).

Looker scum points.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #3877 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 3875, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1719, Firebringer wrote:I could go for norwee, but im not lynching HEM.

my all star end game group is still:
u/hem/gc/isis
gotta pour two out for our homies.
i lynched 3/4 of the golden group. i am the golden group killer.
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Post Post #3878 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:29 pm

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In post 3869, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Seeing "Isis was Vanilla Townie" from NSG will make my heart sink. NGL.
Will it
Or will it be the second time she confirms it to you
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3879 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:36 pm

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just wait until you're dead and then you'll see I'm town.
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Post Post #3880 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:36 pm

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you can verbally abuse me now. it's okay.
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Post Post #3881 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:41 pm

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I'm not sure monkey
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3882 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:41 pm

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I was wondering allowed
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3883 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:42 pm

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I don't ask people questions just to deliberately continue to read them a certain way but sometimes I wonder aloud
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3884 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:45 pm

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Votecount 10.Final


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humaneatingmonkey (), Elements (), Green Crayons ()
Elements
(1)
Isis ()
humaneatingmonkey
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Looker ()
Not Voting
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With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Isis was lynched. She was a
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Post Post #3885 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:45 pm

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Votecount 11.0


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With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The Day 11 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-10 22:46:59).
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Post Post #3886 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:29 pm

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ughh, why is this game so hard
VOTE: hem
I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #3887 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:08 pm

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In post 3822, Green Crayons wrote:Well maybe I don't want to lynch Isis.

I'm really quite bad at closing games out.
You're giving me heart palpitations.
In post 3823, Green Crayons wrote:If I trust past-GC, I want Looker --> Isis --> Elements --> HEM.
HEM > GC > Elements
In post 3830, Green Crayons wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 895, Cycle Men wrote:
In post 874, Cycle Men wrote:
humaneatingmonkey wrote:whos scum in your wagon?
elements and norwee probably
In post 1134, Cycle Men wrote:im cool voting human, elements, fire, or possibly isis this day
Dropped the known scum Norwegian. Maybe he wasn't as spicy as he wanted to be as the day was ending.

If he wanted to bus, Norwegian wouldn't have been a bad option:
In post 1125, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.35


TargetWagon
Cycle Men
(4)
Deimos27 (), humaneatingmonkey (), Isis (), Elements ()
Elements
(3)
Cycle Men (), Alisae (), NorwegianboyEE ()
Firebringer
(2)
votato (), Albert B. Rampage ()
NorwegianboyEE
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Looker (), Green Crayons ()
votato
(1)
Firebringer ()
Not Voting
(0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).

So if he got scared about naming names, doesn't look good for Looker.
What are you asserting?
In post 3832, Green Crayons wrote:
Spoiler:
One thing I want to say about the D1 final VC:
In post 1275, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.41


TargetWagon
Cycle Men
(6)
Deimos27 (), humaneatingmonkey (), Isis (), Firebringer (), Green Crayons (), Elements ()
Elements
(5)
Cycle Men (), Alisae (), NorwegianboyEE (), votato (), Albert B. Rampage ()
NorwegianboyEE
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Looker ()
Not Voting
(0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).
Looker looks bad. Not because he isn't on the cycle wagon. But because vote is from a 400s post on a scum.

Why? Because:
In post 456, Looker wrote:
In post 273, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wait... so i’m the mafia?
Okay. VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
Looks like an early vote on a buddy, and then just sort of left it there as the thread zoomed on and he had trouble wading through the gallons of posts. Never felt comfortable to move the vote because didn't have a good enough grasp to find a plausibly good vote against a town.
It only looks like that because Alisae jumped off last minute. And my feelings for Norway were half scumhunting, half ad hominem.
In post 3835, humaneatingmonkey wrote:at least flip her then move on to looker or elements
No.
In post 3836, Green Crayons wrote:Nah I want to lynch Looker atm. brb let me read D2.
In post 3838, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Isis

Don't be such a baby.
What changed
In post 3874, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1703, Alisae wrote:Looker is a very easy read
when I was scum with him he didn't even make any real attempts to solve or play the game and when we were town together he correctly identified scum!noms in a way that was confident and he believed in himself and was actively trying to poke other slots and try to find the motivations of others.
I see the exact samething I did in that game in here.
I'm sorry but this suggests a Looker-scum to me.
I feel you're cherrypicking suggestions for survivalism. I don't see any other reason why you would deadsheep Firebringer over Alisae.
In post 3876, Green Crayons wrote:
Spoiler: looker shifts momentum away from Norwegian-cw by voting Ali for bad/no reasons
In post 1732, Looker wrote:
In post 1727, Looker wrote:
In post 1451, Alisae wrote:like looking at VCs a bit more, it does seem like ABR just didn’t want to bus Cycle Men.
In your opinion, how AI is a hammer?
In post 1629, Alisae wrote:What I am trying to get across is that Looker knows how I play as scum and should be able to identify the difference between that game and this game.
I know how you play with a single, shitty scum partner (hurling thinly-veiled insults at me in thread :lol: ), and with no daytalk.
In post 1642, Alisae wrote:no you're not
I want you to actually explain why that is scummy
Game aside, some players are
extremely
frustrating
In post 1703, Alisae wrote:Looker is a very easy read
when I was scum with him he didn't even make any real attempts to solve or play the game and when we were town together he correctly identified scum!noms in a way that was confident and he believed in himself and was actively trying to poke other slots and try to find the motivations of others.
I see the exact samething I did in that game in here.
I'm very susceptible to ego strokes.

  • It's nearly impossible to keep up with all this

  • @Green Crayons: I like the way you think. My signature's that way for a reason. You're validating my suspicions of Amrun, skitter30, nomnomnom, and so many other players that V/LA or get "angry" conveniently. You're definitely not alone on that one.
  • @Firebringer: Are you taking into account individual players' post counts as either alignment?
EBWOP: VOTE: Alisae
In post 1750, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 3.6


TargetWagon
Alisae
(4)
humaneatingmonkey (), votato (), NorwegianboyEE (), Looker ()
NorwegianboyEE
(3)
Elements (), Alisae (), Firebringer ()
Not Voting
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Deimos27, Green Crayons, Isis

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-15 23:33:59).
I was trying to avoid chainlynching. If Ali flipped scum, her strongest association would be with me. And I wasn't voting anyone before that, so I don't see how it was a shift.
In post 3877, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 3875, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1719, Firebringer wrote:I could go for norwee, but im not lynching HEM.

my all star end game group is still:
u/hem/gc/isis
gotta pour two out for our homies.
i lynched 3/4 of the golden group. i am the golden group killer.
Please. Stop. Bragging.
In post 3886, Elements wrote:ughh, why is this game so hard
VOTE: hem
Because you're making it hard by waffling. This ends with HEM.


VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
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Post Post #3888 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:22 pm

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Why would I vote HEM.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #3889 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:22 pm

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Elements.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #3890 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:23 pm

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VOTE: looker
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Post Post #3891 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:25 pm

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In post 3887, Looker wrote:What changed
Y’all were interchangeable in my vote order.
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Post Post #3892 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:26 pm

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How about this.

HME. If I were to vote you, and you’re town, who should I vote between Looker and Elements?
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Post Post #3893 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:50 pm

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I don't know. Honestly. I'd say go for Elements because that's where FB and Isis is? I townread Looker. Maybe it's you, but I completely ruined my slot to even push you right now.
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Post Post #3894 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:51 pm

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I'm town, but if I flip, will you guys lynch scum? It's going to be 3p LYLO and you have to nail scum.
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Post Post #3895 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:55 pm

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Idk man.
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Post Post #3896 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:57 pm

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Yeah I don’t want to lynch you. Vote looker.
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Post Post #3897 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:58 pm

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VOTE: Looker
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Post Post #3898 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:59 pm

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Word. Elements HMU. Why is looker town? Why is HME scum?
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Post Post #3899 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:14 pm

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sorry GC. morale is really low. if you want me to look into some things, i can look into it for you.
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