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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:25 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1967, DkKoba wrote:u know what i think there may be a tracker and mafia know and baltar was indeed on bailey... as the kill
just my ... big brained prediction.
rereading the whole claim scenario
this reads like koba was VERY informed at that time
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:25 pm
by Iconeum
knowing scum had info on billy being MASON TRACKER from Day 2 onward, this is mighty convenient for Koba to know.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:28 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3871, Andresvmb wrote:Vote in your own time, it’s fine. But you have seen me play now. You know that I have some ability to plan ahead. I mean I literally wrote yesterday that VPB would be here with a guilty. You should be able to tell that I wouldn’t pull some dumb stunt as Scum just to try and end the game immediately, when I clearly don’t have to.
This is literally the stupidest argument. "I'm too good for this"
I've played about a million games on this site. Let's just stop with this clown shit.
Ico, the reason I'm alive now is become scum killed Billy and then they intended to keep me alive for wifom today. That is absolutely the play Koba and team went for. They knew the PoE was narrow, so what choice did they have?
Let's say they kill me last night. They come into today with a Datisi-hellbrooks confirmed town and an unshakable Dats-Ico alliance. That leaves the scum pool at Koba, Andres, NPOM, Aldus. That's a 75% chance of town success. Killing dats and leaving me alive adds me to the potential scum pool and reduces town chances of eliminating to 3/5, or 60%. Scum need to wifom enough to discount my investigation, but if they can do that, their odds of winning today go up.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:29 pm
by Iconeum
wait fuck
that's it
scum already knew on D2 that there was at least a mason tracker
add to that a 'loyal neighbourizer' and a fake PT cop claim might actually work for scum
scum can just have the rolecop or smt, investigated Hell on N2, and stuck to their PT rolecop thing claim.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:30 pm
by Iconeum
if this theory is true
then VP is scum, with Koba being town -> Andres pushing away from koba and doubting VP so much means Andres is conftown
so scumteam is VP + NPOW + Aldus
i'll go reread them in ISO now
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:30 pm
by VP Baltar
And that's not even considering if they can get Ico into the pool. So potentially a 50% chance of winning today, versus 25% chance in a kill VP scenario.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:31 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3878, Iconeum wrote:wait fuck
that's it
scum already knew on D2 that there was at least a mason tracker
add to that a 'loyal neighbourizer' and a fake PT cop claim might actually work for scum
scum can just have the rolecop or smt, investigated Hell on N2, and stuck to their PT rolecop thing claim.
Oh my word.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:31 pm
by Iconeum
this covers all bases I think
koba's play this game does not make sense for scum
neither does andres
npow is scum
aldus can so easily be scum
and VP got caught and fakeclaimed his way to LYLO and now fakes the guilty at the perfect time
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:36 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1967, DkKoba wrote:u know what i think there may be a tracker and mafia know and baltar was indeed on bailey... as the kill
just my ... big brained prediction.
tho this doesn't work with both VP and koba being scum smh
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:37 pm
by Iconeum
imagine town!koba actually figuring out the mason tracker AND the VP kill on GB lol
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:37 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3877, VP Baltar wrote:Let's say they kill me last night. They come into today with a Datisi-hellbrooks confirmed town and an unshakable Dats-Ico alliance. That leaves the scum pool at Koba, Andres, NPOM, Aldus. That's a 75% chance of town success. Killing dats and leaving me alive adds me to the potential scum pool and reduces town chances of eliminating to 3/5, or 60%. Scum need to wifom enough to discount my investigation, but if they can do that, their odds of winning today go up.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:39 pm
by Iconeum
i hear you, VP
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:40 pm
by Iconeum
i fully understand that Datisi NK shakes up the towncore a lot more then a VP kill
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:42 pm
by Iconeum
@VP
but we both agree NPOW is literally Always scum, yes?
If we flip there, you have an investigation again. If scum go for the full wifom play, you have information tomorrow. If scum decide that play is over, and kill you, we will have confirmation on scum!koba.
That's a lot better then killing koba today, yes?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:45 pm
by VP Baltar
Let me think on it. I just really don't want to be alive in this game anymore.
Lol, I've literally been justifying my existence in this game for two days now with many verifiable details and I still have zero power. It's unreal. At least if we eliminate guaranteed scumKoba today, I can guarantee I'll be killed and not have to think about this anymore.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:45 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 3877, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3871, Andresvmb wrote:Vote in your own time, it’s fine. But you have seen me play now. You know that I have some ability to plan ahead. I mean I literally wrote yesterday that VPB would be here with a guilty. You should be able to tell that I wouldn’t pull some dumb stunt as Scum just to try and end the game immediately, when I clearly don’t have to.
This is literally the stupidest argument. "I'm too good for this"
I've played about a million games on this site. Let's just stop with this clown shit.
Ico, the reason I'm alive now is become scum killed Billy and then they intended to keep me alive for wifom today. That is absolutely the play Koba and team went for. They knew the PoE was narrow, so what choice did they have?
Let's say they kill me last night. They come into today with a Datisi-hellbrooks confirmed town and an unshakable Dats-Ico alliance. That leaves the scum pool at Koba, Andres, NPOM, Aldus. That's a 75% chance of town success. Killing dats and leaving me alive adds me to the potential scum pool and reduces town chances of eliminating to 3/5, or 60%. Scum need to wifom enough to discount my investigation, but if they can do that, their odds of winning today go up.
So now you actually agree you’re not Confirmed? So which is it? And why am I voting outside of your guilty in any case?
My argument has nothing to do with the decision overnight, but the decision we face moving forward. Of course we’re likely to hit Scum today. That was never the issue. If Datisi and Ico stay alive, and you are NK’ed, who do you think would have gathered actual votes? I probably still don’t, since I wasn’t on Testa. Probably Aldus yeah? So if I’m Scum, don’t I win there anyway, given my 1v1 today? Datisi voted for Aldus over Testa, and took a bullet for it. Why doesn’t the Scum just get rid of the investigative and let someone push for Aldus again?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 pm
by VP Baltar
Imagine having caught scum and multiple people trying to tell you to yeet elsewhere.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 pm
by Iconeum
VOTE: NPOW
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:47 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 3888, Iconeum wrote:@VP
but we both agree NPOW is literally Always scum, yes?
If we flip there, you have an investigation again. If scum go for the full wifom play, you have information tomorrow. If scum decide that play is over, and kill you, we will have confirmation on scum!koba.
That's a lot better then killing koba today, yes?
If you actually vote for NPOM at this stage, I’m going to freak out. I have a 1v1 outside the investigation. NPOM doesn’t make sense even if I think the guy is Scummy as hell.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:47 pm
by Andresvmb
I mean this is game throwing.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:47 pm
by Iconeum
UNVOTE:
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:48 pm
by Iconeum
In post 3891, VP Baltar wrote:Imagine having caught scum and multiple people trying to tell you to yeet elsewhere.
easy if you know ur town lol
for everyone else… not so much
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:49 pm
by Alduskkel
what is this game dude
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:50 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Which part of this is xylo don't you understand? If we eliminate wrong there won't be a tomorrow right?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:50 pm
by Iconeum
hey npow
did you ever get around to answering my questions?