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In post 3874, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no it's not, esp when it's an ego-tied-defense where you're basically telling the other person that they are stupid and wrong. His intent was to show me I was wrong by flipping TGP green in my face.

Yeah I guess I didn't connect the dots with the ego thing. It definitely makes sense in hindsight.

In post 3873, Gloria Cleary wrote:Cool, I can quote my interactions with Hopkirk that blow this completely our of the water but Infinity will probably still say, “mah gut”, “mah gut”.

Which ones? You were "re-evaluating" all the way up until deadline.

In post 3874, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3870, Infinity 324 wrote:I stand by the fact that "if you think we're buddies, let's get the other one first" is a reasonable town position

no it's not, esp when it's an ego-tied-defense where you're basically telling the other person that they are stupid and wrong. His intent was to show me I was wrong by flipping TGP green in my face.

Infinity is once again misrepping but this time it’s Dunn because what Infinity is saying in #3874, isn’t at all what Dunn actually said. I actually feel a bit better now, knowing it isn’t just my posts he is incapable of reading correctly.

infinity i dont think gloria tries to talk me into flipping my vote back after I vote hopkirk 15m b4 deadline if she is red because like i imagine the entire scum team PT erupted into cheers of HALLELUJAH ITS A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE when that whack shit happened.

sorry @hopkirk.

In post 3876, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 3873, Gloria Cleary wrote:Cool, I can quote my interactions with Hopkirk that blow this completely our of the water but Infinity will probably still say, “mah gut”, “mah gut”.

Which ones? You were "re-evaluating" all the way up until deadline.

I stopped when Hopkirk obvtowned and I tried to get Pooky to switch back to Gypyx. It’s all there, no matter how hard you try to deny the facts.

In post 1461, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1459, TheGoldenParadox wrote:what are you implying with this post?

Pooky is saying I'm scum with you. The time to explore that should be after we elim you

Blatant tmi post.

It's definitely ++town for gloria, but I have a hard time seeing anyone on the gypyx wagon switching as scum and getting away with it.

In post 3881, Infinity 324 wrote:It's definitely ++town for gloria, but I have a hard time seeing anyone on the gypyx wagon switching as scum and getting away with it.

Is it possible both scum could have been on Hopkirk? If so, I’d remove Pooky from that. He is so off the charts obvtown by this point,

Like I know I’m town and I believe Jessie and Ydrasse are as well, so if you’re also town that means two scum on Hopkirk and it’s not Pooky.

Then it's isis/flea, but flea is bleeding town too imo.

It's not just that isis/gloria are strong gut scumreads, it's that whenever anyone else posts they're so towny to me. Ydrasse is about at the level that my TGP townread was at, everyone else is even townier.

I would've preferred to get the dances out of the way earlier but I'll be around most of tomorrow

The votecount chart image thing is blurry

I'm also frustrated that no one is dancing

In post 3884, Infinity 324 wrote:It's not just that isis/gloria are strong gut scumreads, it's that whenever anyone else posts they're so towny to me. Ydrasse is about at the level that my TGP townread was at, everyone else is even townier.

This is why I don’t trust you. You are pushing this gut angle way too hard, where as in some towngames of yours I ISO’d you in, you never talked about your gut. This “gut scumread” angle while blatantly ignoring evidence that counters is a well-known scum strategy. Basically you can push the most obtown players in any game, ignore any evidence and claim “it’s my gut. And the player your accusing has no recourse to defend against that because unlike actual posts and play you’re not dealing with actual evidence so any good scum player can make bullshit pushes based on their “gut”, even when it contradicts the facts. This is not something you did in any of the towngames of yours I read, so I still think you’re scum here trying to get away with a bs shitpush that you never need to either explain or justify. So yeah, the more you push this angle, the more it pings my scumdar off the freaking charts.

In post 3884, Infinity 324 wrote:It's not just that isis/gloria are strong gut scumreads, it's that whenever anyone else posts they're so towny to me. Ydrasse is about at the level that my TGP townread was at, everyone else is even townier.

So chaining elims. After Isis, me, then Ydrasse.

In post 3887, Isis wrote:I'm also frustrated that no one is dancing

I want me, Pooky, Jessie, Ydrasse to all be paired. I would accept Ydrasse if Jessie and Pooky would pair or I want Pooky to accept my dance request and Jessie pair with her or Pooky and Ydrasse pair and me and Jessie. I can accept Ydrasse but I don’t want Pooky left out.

In post 3867, Infinity 324 wrote:Are you saying isis, flea, and gloria are all town? Because scum!isis could've moved her vote if she was worried about that.

That means multiple scum on gypyx fypov, and ones who aren't super well-positioned to change our vote. (me, ydrasse, jessie)

I see how that's possible though.

I also think it's very possible that tweet overreacted and was confused why her partner gloria was bussing in that situation.

Seriously, what colour is the sky in your world? but please continue. This is highly entertaining.

Actually I don’t believe you’re this seriously clueless. Yes, my “buddy” Tweet was “confused” as to why I was bussing her.

Pooky, anyone, how do you not see how blatantly scummy this slot is? No one in their right mind who is town could possibly believe this. I don’t believe it’s even a real thought.

Pretty sure I used gut a lot in the game I linked but here are other town games where I rely on gut

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=84707
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84987
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84719

In post 3889, Gloria Cleary wrote:So chaining elims. After Isis, me, then Ydrasse.

This is such an awful misrep

I also think that yes, it's possible to be confused about why your partner is bussing. Maybe tweet didn't read the scum PT or w/e

I was thinking and I have an idea

Maybe scum have a 1-shot extra vote they can use to get out of difficult situations on d1

I don't know how this would work out in terms of balance, but it makes a lot of sense. It's very likely at least 1 scum gets run up on d1, and they don't want to out their whole team by just voting a CW, and they especially can't afford to out the players that will live to d2.

Hectic also gave scum a 1-shot factional vig in death's curse

I think it just makes sense

yea but he told us about the one shot dayvig

just like he told us about mengarie cult shot at the beginning.

when has hectic ever given scum hidden 1 shot powers that town doesn't know about?

I don't see a reason why he wouldn't, it'd be kinda bastard but he did say this game would be bastard.

the scum control 6 out of 13 votes, we would need all 7 townies to agree to elim 1 scumbag.

It makes the game much more interesting if you give scum more room to distance imo. It's the only thing that can explain scum on the gypyx wagon I think

It have to win tiebreaks, or count as 2 votes or something to really make sense since gypyx was the first wagon to 6 votes.