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Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:39 pm
by fferyllt
Vote Count 4-7
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-- Gillman Barracks



Infinity 324
(1): Disaster Cartel
Disaster Cartel
(1): Morning Tweet

Not Voting
(4): SirCakez, notscience, Venus Fly Trap, Infinity 324


With 6 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.



Deadline: May 30, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-30 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- skitter30 head of Venus Fly Trap is v/la until May 18
- :]

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 4:02 pm
by Venus Fly Trap
hey i'm nominally back online but i haven't read anything and i don't think i'll be able to until after work tomorrow
apologies for my absence

~ skitter

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:22 am
by SirCakez
this game is fucking haunting my dreams
i hope whoever is scum here is happy

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 am
by SirCakez
In post 3834, Disaster Cartel wrote:
In post 3766, SirCakez wrote:I don't think this is true though
I'm pretty sure it was, I'll try to find quotes in a bit

but I think the only one who was like particularly opposed was notsci and even that only came after like.. a while of wanting bulge dead

like put it this way: most of the voters on the bulge wagon probably would still have voted bulge the next day anyway, and those on the NM wagon I think wanted NM more but I don't think there was anyone screaming that bulge was town there
i disagree
no one was saying it was S/S
some people just thought one or the other was scummier
ex; notsci
In post 3840, Disaster Cartel wrote:she's acting here like she's just had this big revelation that "oh my god holy shit, it's VFT/DC!!!" but like... this shouldn't be shocking if her prior post was genuine because that's what she was supposedly already thinking. like the only thing that made her not commit to it was bc she needs to do "due diligence" on the skitt iverson thing, but the "I CAN SEE IT" is just so performative. that's like the most blatant bit where it comes through but the whole post reads in the same way
i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense
this seems like grasping at straws to me
In post 3842, Disaster Cartel wrote:like ur buddy is putting in so much effort here! you can do better than that
also this reminds me of posts I've seen scum make before
In post 3852, Disaster Cartel wrote:SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.

SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.

let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy
if NM had been yeeted I think Bulge would have been off the table because he was the counterwagon to scum
I know I wouldn't have voted him after that

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:31 am
by SirCakez
i just want vftttttt hereeeee
where plant when we need it

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:44 am
by SirCakez
i get so pumped playing other games and feel good about mafia and then I remember this game exists and it just drains my soul

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:06 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3880, SirCakez wrote:i get so pumped playing other games and feel good about mafia and then I remember this game exists and it just drains my soul
If this ain’t a fucking mood

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:07 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3878, SirCakez wrote:i disagree
no one was saying it was S/S
some people just thought one or the other was scummier
ex; notsci
I’m gonna go back to try and pull quotes tomo but this is not how I remember it at all

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:09 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3878, SirCakez wrote:i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense
I don’t get it

If you’ve already been having the thought of “oh hmm X/Y seem teamed” then making a big post with LOTS OF CAPS and also exclamation points!! seems weird to me? Bc that to me is presenting the realisation as a shock/surprise but logically it shouldn’t have been by that point

So idk what you mean by it making sense tonally? Unless you just mean her tone is good whcih, sure, MT has almost universally had good tone whenever I’ve played with her

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:09 am
by Disaster Cartel
Idk if I’m missing something in what you’re saying there tho cakez

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:10 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3878, SirCakez wrote:also this reminds me of posts I've seen scum make before
*shrug*

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:13 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3878, SirCakez wrote:if NM had been yeeted I think Bulge would have been off the table because he was the counterwagon to scum
I know I wouldn't have voted him after that
But like I don’t think whether you would have voted him matters hugely, no offence

And while I’m not remembering this the same as you, in a sense it’s immaterial to my broader point — Ofer flip NM there, the question is just are we (Dc!scum) likely to come under pressure the next day? I think the answer is nah

While we disagree on the viability of bulge the next day, I think that like, you, iverson, infinity would probably all look less town than us in that scenario so my point that ydra switching vote doesn’t make sense for scum!us still holds

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:14 am
by Disaster Cartel
Sorry for the spam posting but I’m on mobile and I’m absolutely not trying to format a wallpost response

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:15 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3863, Morning Tweet wrote:Oh but if Disaster is town i dont think there's any hope for me anymore so there's that
Town loses if we get flipped, this is lylo, which I’m p sure ur aware of

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:16 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3864, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3852, Disaster Cartel wrote:SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.

SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.

let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy
This incorrectly assumes that the mom lim was a foregone conclusion from scum's PoV at the time. Bork was TRing her and others were trusting his reasoning.
I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:16 am
by Disaster Cartel
I have no idea what infinity is doing re: our slot atp

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:18 am
by Disaster Cartel
I guess trying to have a progression on us? Probably? I suppose it doesn’t matter that much if she’s actually voting us or not given that she can just hammer but like still

Is weird

But it seems pointless to reconsider bc I really don’t see how the team is not MT/infinity given how they’ve played this day phase so far

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:22 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3872, Morning Tweet wrote:Ydrasse leans against Iverson....

so at this point in the day I dont think pushing Iverson is ever a winning plan. Was there another point in the day though, ill keep reading..
I can’t stay long today but I think this is a very weird thing to have in the middle of a post on why it’s DC/Vft

It’s under the spoiler in the post on why VFT supposedly couldn’t have pushed iverson yesterday which is like dubious altogether and I should have more time to breakdown exactly why tomorrow on laptop but for now

Yeah, weirdpog fam

Ydrasse leaning against iverson should matter exactly 0% of the time if VFT and I are teamed when it comes to whether skitt can push iverson for the win yesterday or not

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:23 am
by Infinity 324
In post 3889, Disaster Cartel wrote:I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make
Yes but what I'm saying is that scum would much rather safehouse NM than mom because NM will always get limmed later but mom will not necessarily.

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:24 am
by Disaster Cartel
I mean we all get why right? If VFT and us are teamed it doesn’t matter what our stance is to whether we can vote there

All she needs to do is get two townies on with her (prob kismet and cakez) and for mom to vote there are some point

Even if we’re saying that we’re opposed, if we’re scum with her we can just vote while mom is online or wait for E-1

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:25 am
by Disaster Cartel
In post 3893, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3889, Disaster Cartel wrote:I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make
Yes but what I'm saying is that scum would much rather safehouse NM than mom because NM will always get limmed later but mom will not necessarily.
They were always both gonna die infinity holy shit

The order is not particularly important!!

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:26 am
by Disaster Cartel
Think about how much easier this lylo is if one of the scum here is replaced by either of mom or NM

To paraphrase our favourite finger snappin boi, it was inevitable

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:26 am
by Disaster Cartel
Like I feel like you have to understand this

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:26 am
by Disaster Cartel
The whole way you’re playing today is baffling to me

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 11:27 am
by Disaster Cartel
Also, uh