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In post 3874, Shiro wrote:

In post 3873, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 3871, Shiro wrote:StD has Titus posted in your PT?

yes

What?

In post 3875, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 3874, Shiro wrote:

In post 3873, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 3871, Shiro wrote:StD has Titus posted in your PT?

yes

What?

I SAID YES

In post 3826, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:

In post 3824, Taly wrote:

In post 3823, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:The one thing I will say is that I find the universal townreads on me odd

I'm stronger at scum than a lot of people give me credit for anymore

I think it's a read people are sheeping me on for better or for worse.

Do you think I'm a pocket target this game?

In post 3825, Datisi wrote:okay, i'm feeling a bit calmer today, so i'll go over my problems yesterday.

i had a problem with harley's read of "guiltylion said my pair has scum in it therefore he's scum" because it showed no critical thinking behind it whatsoever. if here was some behind it, i don't know, but literally all i saw was another "someone said i'm scum therefore they must die". no questioning why someone thought that, no questioning whether it would make sense for town!them to think that, just pure omgus. whether it really was that, i don't know, and 3689 makes me think there's more to it, so.

In post 3659, RH9 wrote:

In post 3658, Datisi wrote:are you gonna answer about your gth scumreads or are you just gonna post useless filler?

If you want, I could put GL as a scumlean for making me want to cry. (And making Norwee give up.)

In post 3660, RH9 wrote: Also this is for what seems like an agenda of breaking people down, making them want to lose their will to live, and what marcistar described as making a case 'built up on something' that is 'easily explanable'.
To me, it seems like GL saw the traction on people and fueled the flames. I have never felt like crying while playing a Mafia game until wasting two days of my life was considered 'fake'.

the problem with these posts are that they are making a huge deal out of something that really wasn't it. like, someone calling another person's posts "fake" is about one of the

tamest

insults in mafia, and i found it really REALLY hard to believe that someone who also claimed to have experience with mafia elsewhere (not sure if it was mentioned in this game, but i think i saw rh9 say he's played mafia on other sites) would seriously be brought to tears by someone calling his post fake. *and* i did not see him act in any toxic way towards norwee. so those accusations also felt extremely over the top. and the fact that he was actually voting guiltylion over it really felt to me like scum who has no clue what to vote someone over so they picked something ridiculous like this. because no, i don't think someone could get that offended over guiltylion this game.

now, the reason why i didn't wanna say this last night is because i am not a fan of telling someone that their emotions aren't real, because if i'm wrong, i look like a huge asshole. which is why i utterly despise when ate is used in mafia, because i fear i will look like a bad person simply because i am trying to play to my wincon. so i decided to say nothing and just head to bed since it was 1am for me at the time anyway.

In post 3666, RH9 wrote:Datisi, my world is shattered beyond any kind of repair. I voted GL. I need you to give me a case to convince everybody that everything GL has done can only be done by Town!GL and scum!GL has no chance of doing it.

other than being more emotional stuff that i did not believe, this pissed me off because it implied that i'm supposed to be having this rock-solid towncase on guiltylion, and that not only do i have to convince him, i have to convince everybody, and it was written in such over the top way i really made me think that rh9 was scum just taking the piss out of the whole thing, and i wasn't able to call him out on it because i thought i would get called a bully because "how dare you say his emotions are manipulative!"

so yeah, that made me really upset last night.

In post 3825, Datisi wrote:okay, i'm feeling a bit calmer today, so i'll go over my problems yesterday.

i had a problem with harley's read of "guiltylion said my pair has scum in it therefore he's scum" because it showed no critical thinking behind it whatsoever. if here was some behind it, i don't know, but literally all i saw was another "someone said i'm scum therefore they must die". no questioning why someone thought that, no questioning whether it would make sense for town!them to think that, just pure omgus. whether it really was that, i don't know, and 3689 makes me think there's more to it, so.

In post 3659, RH9 wrote:

In post 3658, Datisi wrote:are you gonna answer about your gth scumreads or are you just gonna post useless filler?

If you want, I could put GL as a scumlean for making me want to cry. (And making Norwee give up.)

In post 3660, RH9 wrote: Also this is for what seems like an agenda of breaking people down, making them want to lose their will to live, and what marcistar described as making a case 'built up on something' that is 'easily explanable'.
To me, it seems like GL saw the traction on people and fueled the flames. I have never felt like crying while playing a Mafia game until wasting two days of my life was considered 'fake'.

the problem with these posts are that they are making a huge deal out of something that really wasn't it. like, someone calling another person's posts "fake" is about one of the

tamest

insults in mafia, and i found it really REALLY hard to believe that someone who also claimed to have experience with mafia elsewhere (not sure if it was mentioned in this game, but i think i saw rh9 say he's played mafia on other sites) would seriously be brought to tears by someone calling his post fake. *and* i did not see him act in any toxic way towards norwee. so those accusations also felt extremely over the top. and the fact that he was actually voting guiltylion over it really felt to me like scum who has no clue what to vote someone over so they picked something ridiculous like this. because no, i don't think someone could get that offended over guiltylion this game.

now, the reason why i didn't wanna say this last night is because i am not a fan of telling someone that their emotions aren't real, because if i'm wrong, i look like a huge asshole. which is why i utterly despise when ate is used in mafia, because i fear i will look like a bad person simply because i am trying to play to my wincon. so i decided to say nothing and just head to bed since it was 1am for me at the time anyway.

In post 3666, RH9 wrote:Datisi, my world is shattered beyond any kind of repair. I voted GL. I need you to give me a case to convince everybody that everything GL has done can only be done by Town!GL and scum!GL has no chance of doing it.

other than being more emotional stuff that i did not believe, this pissed me off because it implied that i'm supposed to be having this rock-solid towncase on guiltylion, and that not only do i have to convince him, i have to convince everybody, and it was written in such over the top way i really made me think that rh9 was scum just taking the piss out of the whole thing, and i wasn't able to call him out on it because i thought i would get called a bully because "how dare you say his emotions are manipulative!"

so yeah, that made me really upset last night.

In post 3886, Datisi wrote:my opinions regarding what?

In post 3887, RH9 wrote:

In post 3886, Datisi wrote:my opinions regarding what?

People mentioned in 3825.

In post 3890, Datisi wrote:my opinion hasn't changed on anything. i still think harley's initial suspicion of guiltylion very much sounded like "someone said i'm scum so they must die" (though a later post did change my mind on that being a thing), and i still think your posts accompanying your vote of guiltylion, and the post asking me to provide a towncase, were completely fabricated, meant to be manipulative, and used as an excuse to place a vote there; especially considering the non-emotional problems you had with him were never explained and magically disappeared later on.

for the record, and i want to make this very clear: i do not have a problem with you as people. i am simply explaining the game as i see it.

In post 3889, RH9 wrote:By the way, I want to ask Ydrasse something out of curiosity.

In post 870, Vulture wrote:I think arguably your reaction/treatment of me when you figured out who I was signals that you were afraid of me.

(This alt is like, all but outed anyways, so: hi, I'm Ydrasse.)

In post 3892, RH9 wrote:

In post 3889, RH9 wrote:By the way, I want to ask Ydrasse something out of curiosity.

FYI, I figured out the answer, myself.

In post 870, Vulture wrote:I think arguably your reaction/treatment of me when you figured out who I was signals that you were afraid of me.

(This alt is like, all but outed anyways, so: hi, I'm Ydrasse.)

Here it is. That's the answer but I'll keep my reasoning to myself unless Taly and Alyssa say that I can share.
(It is to do with the tragedy of Newbie 2080.)

In post 3893, RH9 wrote:

In post 3892, RH9 wrote:

In post 3889, RH9 wrote:By the way, I want to ask Ydrasse something out of curiosity.

FYI, I figured out the answer, myself.

In post 870, Vulture wrote:I think arguably your reaction/treatment of me when you figured out who I was signals that you were afraid of me.

(This alt is like, all but outed anyways, so: hi, I'm Ydrasse.)

Here it is. That's the answer but I'll keep my reasoning to myself unless Taly and Alyssa say that I can share.
(It is to do with the tragedy of Newbie 2080.)

And its devastating effect to Newbie 2082 where it was mentioned here.

In post 3894, RH9 wrote:

In post 3893, RH9 wrote:

In post 3892, RH9 wrote:

In post 3889, RH9 wrote:By the way, I want to ask Ydrasse something out of curiosity.

FYI, I figured out the answer, myself.

In post 870, Vulture wrote:I think arguably your reaction/treatment of me when you figured out who I was signals that you were afraid of me.

(This alt is like, all but outed anyways, so: hi, I'm Ydrasse.)

Here it is. That's the answer but I'll keep my reasoning to myself unless Taly and Alyssa say that I can share.
(It is to do with the tragedy of Newbie 2080.)

And its devastating effect to Newbie 2082 where it was mentioned here.

Well, the scumpartner of Ydrasse mentioned himself.

In post 3835, Datisi wrote:

In post 3770, RH9 wrote:To be fair, during my break, I've decided that GL's actions aren't AI and I'll probably unvote him and put him to a nullread.
UNVOTE: GuiltyLion

this is also very weird. you also had some problems with the way he was treating norwee - and it wasn't just "gl killing norwee's will to live", it was you actually poking holes in his case. i don't think that was ever addressed? is that not important?