NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 3-3

(as of Post 3899)

TMTOLBTWNTOF (8)

- Ankamius, Rift Adrift, Serene, Thirdkoopa, orcinus_theoriginal, dramonic, Shadi1337, Baezu

Not Voting (9)

- TMTOLBTWNTOF, DOMO, Cephrir, KingCrabd, Slandaar, Baby Spice, StubbsKVM, jon_h61, BROseidon

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-08-10 21:24:01)

Replacing:

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Prods:

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V/LAs:

AnkamiusAug 1

[KingCrabd]

If we could get an unvote to avoid a self-hammer that would be great Kthnx.

[Rift Adrift]

UNVOTE

[Cephrir]

So sad to see Slandaar go. I really love playing with him especially when he's town, like in this game. I'm very unsettled by the loss of 3 VTs yesterday. This is really hurting us. We need to find some scum so that town has a chance. I think if we lynch TMT today, we can give ank more time to find more scum. I do agree with Slandaar's reads. I definitely think the Jon slot is scum and cephrir's posts today were super scummy too. If cop can confirm on either of those tonight, it would make tomorrow's lynch easy as well. Cabd I'm leaning scum. Rift and orc are town and also DOMO. So if we go according to DOMO's list, the remaining scum is in: BRO, shadi and stubbs. Sounds like we have a really good basis to start working on.

btw: Happy birthday, Shadi

[BROseidon]

Thank you Rift.

Super don't like Baezu's post for 2 reasons:

1) Ank claimed 2-shot cop. Baezu missing this detail is pretty bad.

2) More concerningly, he pust letters at L-1 when letters would likely self-hammer as scum to end the day early.

[BROseidon]

f recent games.

Want to actually talk about this?

[Rift Adrift]

f recent games.

Want to actually talk about this?

I can talk about it but I don't see how it would push the game forward.

It's self meta, and probably not useful meta outside me understanding how to fix some issues in my game.

[BROseidon]

Oh, so it has more to do with you and not the players you are reading. Got it.

[Thirdkoopa]

The fact he's not replying is already selling out even more of his guilt.

So reads lists, gents. I would especially like one from Ank and the masons.

[Serene]

Please hammer before I die of natural causes.

[Thirdkoopa]

Please hammer before I die of natural causes.

Serene - Useful Mason

has died of Dysentery!

[BROseidon]

Please hammer before I die of natural causes.

Serene - Useful Mason

has died of Dysentery!

I almost burst out laughing at work because of this.

[Baby Spice]

Quick and dirty reads list.

Ank town.
Baezu scum.
BROseidon town to meh
Cephrir meh
DOMO town
dramonic town
KingCrabd town
Slandaar worried
orcinus_theorigina back to meh
Rift Adrift town
Shadi1337 scum
StubbsKVM scum
Thirdkoopa town
jon_h61 meh
TMTOLBTWNTOF scum
Serene town

Doubt now that letters will post again.

[Serene]

TWO MORE VOTES

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[Thirdkoopa]

HAMMER THIS MOFO HE HASN'T EVEN COME HERE

SERENE READ LIST GO

[Serene]

Unchanged from yesterday

All those read lists are just road maps to guide the scum towards the optimal NK

JUST HAMMER

[Rift Adrift]

If we could get an unvote to avoid a self-hammer that would be great Kthnx.

What do you want to accomplish before day end?

[Ankamius]

Ok well seeing as koopa was quick to claim the stevie kill, and no-one has countered, I think we can safely say koopa is confirmed.

Ankamius - claimed cop
Serene - claimed mason
Thirdkoopa - confirmed vig
dramonic - claimed mason
Baby Spice - cleared by ank

orcinus_theoriginal - town read
KingCrabd - town read
Rift Adrift - town read

TMTOLBTWNTOF - scum

That leaves...

Cephrir, Slandaar, StubbsKVM, jon_h61, BROseidon, Shadi1337, Baezu.

I'm assuming there's at least 5 scum left to find, and based on claims and townreads, I've narrowed them down to a pool of 7. I don't have a great deal of faith in this, looks to me like we have either a bullshit claim or scum in my townreads. If all the scum are in this group, they have to kill off the claims or leaders. But they didn't.

I think there's at least one from each faction in the town bloc, because neither faction felt any urgency regarding trimming the town bloc down. koopa is confirmed now. ank, I'm not so sure about him. He was in trouble when he claimed, so he could be taking TMT down with him. The masons, I just still can't believe they'd fakeclaim like that on day one.

So right now I'm thinking two of ank, rift, orc and kingcrabd,
and probably 3 in Cephrir, Slandaar, StubbsKVM, jon_h61, BROseidon, Shadi1337, Baezu.

I'll tear the thread to pieces when we get more flips.

Okay, now my DOMO read is flipping towards town again. There's some good analysis there that I agree with.

At this point, I'm leaning towards Mafia + SK over Multiball. Actually, it makes a lot of sense that if this is true, the SK and at least one scum is in this group.

Me claiming cop and getting a buddy lynched as scum is basically VI play. It would've been a lot safer and less damaging to the team for me to claim another innocent.

[jon_h61]

Me claiming cop and getting a buddy lynched as scum is basically VI play. It would've been a lot safer and less damaging to the team for me to claim another innocent.

This is mainly why I'm leaning heavily Town here on your slot.

I'm believing the Masons claim ATM, but if both survive into the late game, I'd say it would need to be reevaluated.

I had shadi as scum from my first read through. This game is harder than I thought it would be to get caught up and develope decent reads in.

I have a lot more I'm leaning Town on that I do scum. I've ISOd a few key players, and double ISOd a few more together. I'm not ready to go full steam on my scum reads yet, but I'd bet the letters is flipping scum.

[Thirdkoopa]

I will admit the fact it's been two nights and both haven't died make me unnerved, but hey, maybe they just think Dramonic is useless.

[Ankamius]

Dramonic has done literally nothing all game. This is compared to all the people like me who haven't done jack shit all game.

[Thirdkoopa]

Dramonic has done literally nothing all game. This is compared to all the people like me who haven't done jack shit all game.

Dramonic is "lol i'm a mason"

I'd like it if he came here and did something.

serene (or someone else that isn't serene) could you just link me to the post of your reads list

[Serene]

serene (or someone else that isn't serene) could you just link me to the post of your reads list

You and your buddies can spend the night looking for them.

Also everyone knows DOMO is town, you didn't need his read list for that.

HAMMER

[BROseidon]

Why would you shoot masons early over digging for other PRs, especially when one of the masons does literally nothing and the other posts crap half the time?

pedit NO WE ARE NOT HAMMERING YET WE ARE NOT WASTING A DAY PHASE.

Here is an anecdote to explain why: In Xenoblade, Venmar hid behind mine and Orc's scumbuddy Rach night 2 and had crumbed it properly, which meant we had to lynch Rach day 3. Town ended up quickhammering Rach (before she could even get out her fakeclaim), which saved me and Orc the trouble of having to look SUPER AWKWARD about being forced to hard-bus our buddy that we had been townreading the whole game (granted, we were both buddying Nacho's read, but it still would have been bad). The quickhammer meant I didn't have to post much, which left almost nothing of associative tells to find me later with.

[BROseidon]

I also want to talk to Rift/Orc about what they think of Baezu's 3894 as well as why they are flipping reads on Cabd.