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Oh wait, Rach's not at L-1. Still, self-hammers are bad with hanging questions.

all of the above still applies.

or last post of the previous page, wtfever.

^

he said what i want to say but better
missed jordan's claim but w.e

and the dgb-ika claim

Why would I hammer myself when I am town?

We're fine with the Rach lynch. Seeing as that seems to be where the support is DGB can wait.

I'd say I'd be interested in SKOTs reply but at this point I'm sure it's more about Saki-scum, so I'm not sure if we'll gain anything from it.
Including the fact either he is the vig as he claims to be, the actual vig'll sort it out or we'll have a vig flip and we'll have a lynch tomorrow.

VOTE: RachMarie

Oh good, we're lynching Rach.

I won't RB Saki or Kaiveran. It'll be a surprise.

Oh good lord. Rach is going to be town. Kaiv already indicated that they would hammer rach.
What do you want from me on Saki, seriously.

Right now I am down to BGs between Saki, Kaiv, and DGB...
Rach and DGB are town

People backing off on Saki's claim seriously?

If you were town and had that role, would your play not be such that at some way shape or form you would attempt to draw a kill?
We have the cop identifying several times that Saki was bad including telling Vig to shoot Saki
You had Saki at an L-1 with self vote where there would be some advatage to scum sweeping. Sure some WIFOM elements to work out but given the probable #s here, not much to lose.
But, heh, go ahead finish Rachel I guess and then I have to make a right call as vig to get off a shot and not get killed all at the same time. This decision is dooming the game, but hey, par for the course.
I will have no part of a rach lynch. So in order to get Rach lynched there will be scum advocating this action. I wash my hands.

↑ Saki wrote:^

he said what i want to say but better
missed jordan's claim but w.e

Oh that

I did see Jordan's Polar Locker claim, it's just that I still think that can go either way. Especially since he said he "RNGd" the power all the way, when you'd think one would want to save it for their scumspects. Still, I've seen odd-town like Jordan do weirder things. You also brought up how it could possibly make it easier for town PRs to hit their mark.

↑ Saki wrote:and the dgb-ika claim

Do not remember this. I'll have to do some digging.

↑ DrippingGoofball wrote:

↑ Saki wrote:if you claim vt here and now
I will lynch you and have no fucking problems with it

Ika is not VT

THIS IS

CONFIRMED

.

And he's town.

You can vote PN again.

↑ DrippingGoofball wrote:

↑ Saki wrote:masons or neighbors?

I said: CONFTOWN, that means CONFTOWN. Stop fishing.

↑ Bulbazak wrote:

Ika,

Town Polar Linker

, was night killed. His polarity was

Light

at the time of his death.

↑ DrippingGoofball wrote:I'll

RB

Saki tonight.

Let's lynch Rach.

Interesting.

There must be some kind of linked role between the two. Even if it's just linking their polarities, that can do wonders for leverage, but it looks from here to be more akin to a neighborhood or masonry. In any case, I would think that if ika saw scum in DGB he would have promptly came out with it, and those two slots were alive together for a long time. Scum-DGB could have shut his machinations down at any time or at least refrained from screaming "CONFTOWN" about him, and she didn't.

So cool, I can feel more confident in that town read.

I kinda want DGB to hardclaim so I can erase all doubts, but then again that'll erase all doubts for the scum too. And we don't want that, do we?

Oh boy, here we go again.

↑ Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:Oh good lord. Rach is going to be town. Kaiv already indicated that they would hammer rach.

There's nothing that suggests Rach is town to me. I strongly scumread her. Townies want to hammer people who they think are scum. It's kind of how this game works. You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, but you need evidence to convince me that I'm wrong, which seems to have, least of all you. And if you scumread me simply for with you then god help you.

People backing off on Saki's claim seriously?

If you were town and had that role, would your play not be such that at some way shape or form you would attempt to draw a kill?
We have the cop identifying several times that Saki was bad including telling Vig to shoot Saki

You ever stop to think that maybe he trying to draw a kill, then stopped with the bullshit when people were piling on him for his odd behavior and telling vig's to shoot him. I know if I was in that position, I would step up my game , because, y'know, the alternative is getting , or worse, I mean, seriously.

And I don't know what it's going to take to get this through your head, but

↑ Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:You had Saki at an L-1 with self vote where there would be some advatage to scum sweeping. Sure some WIFOM elements to work out but given the probable #s here, not much to lose.

Actually, if your claim is legit, scum have to lose from a quickhammer. Let's hypothetical for a moment to feel out the scum mindset:

• I am scum.
  
• This game is, in all likelihood,
  1
  :
  1
  :
  4
  . This means I am riding solo and survival is my highest priority.
  
• Someone else is run up to L-1 and I can quickhammer.
  
  • Let's say I choose to do so.
    
  • You, a town vig,
    see
    me quickhammer, and see the player I hammer flip town.
    
  • You logically conclude that I am scum for quickhammering a townie, and shoot me during the following night.
    
  • Being killed at night, I instantly lose the game.
    
  • Even if the player I hammered flips
    other scum
    , I
    still
    run the risk of this happening due to the hastiness of my hammer.
  
  
• Conclusion: I'd better not quickhammer.

↑ Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:But, heh, go ahead finish Rachel I guess and then I have to make a right call as vig to get off a shot and not get killed all at the same time. This decision is dooming the game, but hey, par for the course.

I'd say you doomed the game simply by virtue of surviving to this point. And of course scum is not going to kill you because you're being so useful to them.

Okay, I was going to claim intent again but fuck it

Rach's already claimed, Jordan's okay with the lynch, and SKOT is in all likelihood going to continue to be a brownian motion of particles that emits nothing but white noise.

Plus, I'm not going to see Rach wriggle out of this yet again. There is a very slim possibility that she's PN-level failtown in this game, and if we do mislynch, we've lost simply by virtue of SKOT being alive and unshaken...but, hey, it sure was worth the old college try.

VOTE: RachMarie

*holds breath*

so everyone that calls me obvtown is scum

welp

gg guys

↑ Saki wrote:so everyone that calls me obvtown is scum

welp

gg guys

Why are you alive?

beats me

I was dark going into last night

So cool, never need to play a game with SKOT ever again.

↑ Saki wrote:so everyone that calls me obvtown is scum

welp

gg guys

I'm not scum I am .

Currently waiting on a response from the mod before proceeding.

I have narrowed the scum down to Kai, Saki or Jordan.

Okay, so I tried to change to last night, only to be informed that I am again today. This in all likelihood means that I have been polarity locked by Jordan, despite it being against all town interests to make town easier to target at this point. And Jordan never mentioned anything about his role being Compulsive, so no town points for you, mister!

Welp, I guess that's my fault, partially. I saw people evaluate what use a Polarity Locker would be to both groupscum and town...and yet nobody, not even me, brought up what a huge boon it could be to a Serial Killer. How much easier an SK's life would be, if they could lock people into polarities and effortlessly switch into the one needed to kill them at their leisure...*sigh*

And DGB's record on this day so far is asking a scummy question and then outright trolling the remaining kingmaker townies in a game she probably has miniscule chance, if any, of losing.



...By locking me, a townie, it seems like Jordan is sending a message of cooperation and that he will be playing for the draw...which I guess would be a fitting end to this. But then again, that could just be what he you to think! That might not be his only power, after all...

, is the dilemma of whether DGB is lying about her RB claim or not...and how she'll utilize that RB if she has it!

So I guess that's what it all comes down to. Lies and shit and WIFOM. Have fun!

VOTE: No Lynch

welp it's obviously Kai and Jordan for scum

I mean, c'mon, DGB is something like a mason afaik and I don't think mafia masons are a thing in bulbazak's games
esp a game not advertised as bastard

dgb what's your full role
did you actually roleblock SKOT or something because I'm pretty sure he shot me and his shot was supposed to go through

↑ Saki wrote:welp it's obviously Kai and Jordan for scum

I mean, c'mon, DGB is something like a mason afaik and I don't think mafia masons are a thing in bulbazak's games
esp a game not advertised as bastard

dgb what's your full role
did you actually roleblock SKOT or something because I'm pretty sure he shot me and his shot was supposed to go through

Why are you so sure that the "Polar Linking" was a Masonry? We know nothing about the role. It could have been a Neighborhood, or worse yet, nothing more than ika forcibly connecting DGB's polarity to his for leverage.

Yeah, ika didn't cry scum about her, but maybe he was fooled. It happens.

But sure, let DGB hardclaim and pump more whyfoam into the room, Jordan-scum isn't choking yet.