Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Disaster Cartel]

Mine, suck it ffery

You may have won the war, but the battle is mine

shut up, it still counts even if you weren’t online

[Disaster Cartel]

Okay folx it’s half an hour past midnight I’m turning in as I’m back at work tomo

Also looking forward to skitt getting back

[Disaster Cartel]

Very much so actually

Like you have no fucking idea

Someone who doesn’t make me want to headwall

[Infinity 324]

They were always both gonna die infinity holy shit

I just don't agree, again, mom was towny enough that I really don't think scum could've predicted that she was guaranteed to be limmed

[Morning Tweet]

This game is so exciting to me

It's rare that I want people to vote with me this bad

i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense

I don’t get it

If you’ve already been having the thought of “oh hmm X/Y seem teamed” then making a big post with LOTS OF CAPS and also exclamation points!! seems weird to me? Bc that to me is presenting the realisation as a shock/surprise but logically it shouldn’t have been by that point

So idk what you mean by it making sense tonally? Unless you just mean her tone is good whcih, sure, MT has almost universally had good tone whenever I’ve played with her

Again i would liken it to a mounting storm where at first it's what i thought but when i got to that point i started

FEELING

it

I really don't see how this is a big hangup for you but whatever

I am excited as shit if i'm actually right and i'll be doubly so if i pull this back somehow

[SirCakez]

i disagree
no one was saying it was S/S
some people just thought one or the other was scummier
ex; notsci

I’m gonna go back to try and pull quotes tomo but this is not how I remember it at all

please do

i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense

I don’t get it

If you’ve already been having the thought of “oh hmm X/Y seem teamed” then making a big post with LOTS OF CAPS and also exclamation points!! seems weird to me? Bc that to me is presenting the realisation as a shock/surprise but logically it shouldn’t have been by that point

So idk what you mean by it making sense tonally? Unless you just mean her tone is good whcih, sure, MT has almost universally had good tone whenever I’ve played with her

like tweet was excited about the team and was trying to pump herself up
i have felt like that before

[SirCakez]

FUCK I keep settling on like "ok it's defintely DC"
and then DC WILL FUCKING POST SOMETHING MAKING ME RECONSIDER
FUCK

[Morning Tweet]

Oh but if Disaster is town i dont think there's any hope for me anymore so there's that

Town loses if we get flipped, this is lylo, which I’m p sure ur aware of

No, not hope for me surviving, i mean hope for me seeing the game correctly

Like if you're town i dont think there's any way i could see it at this point

I have no idea what infinity is doing re: our slot atp

I also don't get it, it's the most demoralizing thing -- why is Infinity backing down now? I don't understand what she's seeing with regards to you townslipping or what team she's even considering now

[Morning Tweet]

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[Morning Tweet]

Ydrasse leans against Iverson....

so at this point in the day I dont think pushing Iverson is ever a winning plan. Was there another point in the day though, ill keep reading..

I can’t stay long today but I think this is a very weird thing to have in the middle of a post on why it’s DC/Vft

It’s under the spoiler in the post on why VFT supposedly couldn’t have pushed iverson yesterday which is like dubious altogether and I should have more time to breakdown exactly why tomorrow on laptop but for now

Yeah, weirdpog fam

Ydrasse leaning against iverson should matter exactly 0% of the time if VFT and I are teamed when it comes to whether skitt can push iverson for the win yesterday or not

The entirety of the spoiler is recounting everyone's outted reads/votes towards Iverson

I'm confused what your point is

[Morning Tweet]

I feel like Disaster agreeing that Mom was always gonna die just shows why you kill Mom over Disaster there >w> assuming that is indeed what everyone agrees, it was certainly the impression i got by far

[Infinity 324]

I also don't get it, it's the most demoralizing thing -- why is Infinity backing down now? I don't understand what she's seeing with regards to you townslipping or what team she's even considering now

Idek, you/notsci I guess?

I thought that DC saying mom was inevitably gonna get limmed meant they were town because that doesn't seem like something you'd say if you were in scum's position on d2. But now that mena's doubling down maybe he believes it anyway?

Still sorta just tempted to trust skitt and vote her second scumread or whatever, if she's scum she played incredible (despite some odd strategic plays imo)

[Infinity 324]

I feel like Disaster agreeing that Mom was always gonna die just shows why you kill Mom over Disaster there >w> assuming that is indeed what everyone agrees, it was certainly the impression i got by far

He's trying to argue that voting bulge was a bad play as scum because both him and mom/NM (whichever didn't get safehouse) were going to get limmed and the only thing it changes was the order

I still think mom was never guaranteed to get limmed

[Morning Tweet]

Is the townslip that Disaster misjudged the amount of certainty there was for Mom being eliminated? Isn't worrying a little too much about pressure your partners receive a thing that happens to scum?? it certainly does to me

On D2 I swear to fucking god though Mom was in many scum pools and was one of the ppl everybody wrote off as scum (At least, im pretty sure). Mom was low. I recall some defense coming for Mom later in the game by you (Infinity) and maybe one other person but that was later and still not that many people.

Mom wasn't terribly active either so opinions there werent really that fluid, they were expected to stay the same. If i were scum with Mom i was expecting that slot to die or at least have considerable chances of dying so trying to side with Mom and get an alternate elim would likely be harder than just continuously bussing Mom and being able to shoot out that slot at any time

Am i spouting nonsense here with regards to what we are talking about or not?

[Infinity 324]

Maybe my recollection was off. From what I remember bork TRed mom and everyone else was kinda like "yeah that makes sense". I know I did that. I think it's open enough to interpretation that it's probably not a townslip though.

[Venus Fly Trap]

heya
i'm around
apologies for my absence

~

i absolutely under no circumstances will entertain flipping dc today after yesterday. this is my single-most confident read and i will not let us get derailed after everything that's happened.

~
i want to talk to mt a bit.

@mt a few points:
- i literally cannot imagine a universe where scum-me doesn't try to, like, win yesterday. in the universe you're proposing, iverson was absolutely viable - bork was willing to vote there, and if anything, *i* talked him out of it by calling prism town. why, exactly, does scum-me limit my options and go out of my way to cut off that option? and to bus my partner instead?
in your spoiler you kinda ignore the following interaction:

Spoiler:

3011 and on threw me for a loop, but maybe i can see it (and everything after) starting as a response to 3000.

i have a hard time seeing both prism and dc as town considering how bulge went down. what's your dream team here?

well if he's scum here what exactly is he doing?
retreating into the the absurd and defensive and philosophical?
although now that i think abt it if he thinks he's cooked after yesterday this might be prism's version of lolcatting. but he could have just left teh game instead of doing whatever he's doing now as scum?

i did feel a couple of times that he was making an earnest effort in trying to get me to understand his pov. like in the 2952 2954 2957 range

idk maybe i like it when people appeal to me and try to work with me tho

~

i think that all scum are in {mom/infinity/notsci/sircakez/iverson}

well if he's scum here what exactly is he doing?
retreating into the the absurd and defensive and philosophical?
although now that i think abt it if he thinks he's cooked after yesterday this might be prism's version of lolcatting. but he could have just left teh game instead of doing whatever he's doing now as scum?

yeah, fair enough.

i'm willing to maybe admit 3083 - 3085 don't come from scum here

probably not unfortunately

i'm wondering if i should be rethinking notsci here
i don't really want to but i think i might be at that point

to be perfectly blunt, i had the sway to get the flip that i wanted .... i'm p confident that if scum-me had doubuled-down on prism it would have been viable with bork's backing, and you're just ignoring the fact that i just *don't*
- i was the driving force behind the one and only scum day-flip. i'm baffled that your explanation for how that happened is 'decided to bus a partner instead of trying to win yesterday' and are treating that like the most likely explanation.
- maybe i missed it but feel free to quote it at me if i did: why exactly is it more likely that i'm scum *with* dc than town who can read him better than you?
- if there's anything in particular you would like me to address, please requote.

~

basically where i'm at:

dc is town
and i'm p sure cakez is town too

so two scum out of {mt, infinity, notsci}
i was leaning towards infinity/notsci entering today after how yesterday went down but i feel like with mt's entrance and what she's pushing i need to reconsider her as well.
but i'm p sure my vote today will only be within those three people.

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

notsci if you're town i need you to un-disappear off the face of the planet

you're kinda in your scum-meta at this point i feel like

~

infinity can you walk me through exactly why you were willing to cede your vote to me a couple of days ago, ieven if it meant voting yourself

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

infinity can you walk me through exactly why you were willing to cede your vote to me a couple of days ago, ieven if it meant voting yourself

I was very upset about my play and the gamestate and I felt like people weren't going to change their mind. Especially because i felt like my mindset was going to affect my ability to obvtown

I'm still very not confident in my reads and am tempted to vote who you think is scum if I'm town

[Venus Fly Trap]

right, but if you're town we just lose in that instance tho?
i can kinda imagine scum being so despondant in that universe that they'd be willing to just end it however ...
but at the same time i am kinda getting the vibe that you weresincerely disappointed annoyed at your inability to obvtown here and that you were kinda desperate to have people see your pov
also i hope it isn't rude if i say this but i kinda feel like if you're scum you would have just given up? and wouldn't even have made a lot of the psots you made in that bout of posting? idk

~

(aside i have a thought but i think i'm not supposed to talk about it under the 'talking about replacement' rules)

~
ig if you are town here i think tweetie/notsci is probalby the solve
(sadly *flops ears* in that universe)

[Venus Fly Trap]

ig my problem with that universe is why mt doesn't just rep-in and start pushing you ... that's easily her easiest push here

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

I wanted you to reconsider in a "would she do this as scum" sense

It wasn't the best plan I admit

I probably wouldn't have efforted this much as scum yes

[Venus Fly Trap]

ugh hard game is hard >.>

i feel like i just need to find the one town in the three which hopefully i can manage to do?

pedit yeah that's the thing your push yeseterday was kinda gross and looked really bad but like i'm not sure scum-you, after failing, can put on such a burst of posting like that, knowing the sort of situation you're up against

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

mt why is infinity town here?

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

ok i'm actually not sure why she's townreading infinity to that extant
(or dismissing the reasons why people were scumreading her at daystart)

~ skitter

[fferyllt]

hoof