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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:03 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 3899, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3897, MathBlade wrote:I think that team would be excellent because only VP is under suspicion.
I think maybe I win as scum a lot because I play scum differently?
If that was the team, this game would be so easy it'd be a joke.
we'd have been going at it from a different angle, though.
I'd have had no reason to defend tene the way I did.
If anything, I indirectly helped some momentum onto VPB because of my tene defense.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:04 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3896, April Ludgate wrote:Also, yeah, Fire/DV has scum in them, VPB. Don't know which, but you're stuck in the center of it.
Don't worry, fam. I got you if you're town. I'm leaning into my lim for a reason. I'll flip green to set this game right
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:06 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3901, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3896, April Ludgate wrote:Also, yeah, Fire/DV has scum in them, VPB. Don't know which, but you're stuck in the center of it.
Don't worry, fam. I got you if you're town. I'm leaning into my lim for a reason. I'll flip green to set this game right
I don’t think this is a good idea if you’re town.
People do this and it works at best 25-50% of the time
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:10 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 3764, April Ludgate wrote:
Also, I want people to look into this way of phrasing.
He said there's no "actual" evidence, implying that there would indeed be some type of evidence that could be found.
If he was town, "actual" evidence wouldn't be something he needs to bring up, because it would simply be "there's no evidence".
This is a "they're right but for the wrong reasons/no reason" scum defense by Malcolm.
In post 3766, April Ludgate wrote:
also this.
I think it's fairly obvious I've put a lot of effort into trying to get a wagon going on him. The fact he calls it lazy is laughable. He is simply attempting to discredit as much as he can because the reasoning I gave for why he is scum is true, but he thinks it's a bad reasoning that he shouldn't be caught for.
In post 3773, April Ludgate wrote: In post 3768, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 3764, April Ludgate wrote:
Also, I want people to look into this way of phrasing.
He said there's no "actual" evidence, implying that there would indeed be some type of evidence that could be found.
If he was town, "actual" evidence wouldn't be something he needs to bring up, because it would simply be "there's no evidence".
This is a "they're right but for the wrong reasons/no reason" scum defense by Malcolm.
What is your actual case against me? You admitted early on you "shoot your shot" early because you had no actual case. Now you're just manufacturing it.
it was a combination of the way you acted towards Tene during that bout, the gamestate momentum, and the political placing you were in during the time.
That was a theory, of course, at that time, and I have been trying to dive deeper into it since, and I finally got a little bit of momentum.
You have actively tried to discredit and push faults rather than look for scum, you shade pushes against you like they're nothing, when even if you were town, they aren't nothing, they're completely valid thoughts.
You have been focused on "no case, no evidence" which is just an overall straight discredit attempt that hopes to brush the problem away rather than confront it until necessary.
Cases are for scum, are for late game big solves. Any case that could me made right now is a simple "hmm, dont know if im feeling that" doesn't mean it's not true.
People can not like the case based on their own individual reads, but it's 100% a case.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:12 pm
by April Ludgate
People can say they don't like the case, but why say No instead of Maybe. I see no real reason to actively shut it away especially since i havent seen anyone try to town case Malcolm really.
End of the day, cases are weaksauce until Day 4+
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:12 pm
by April Ludgate
the correct ones, anyways
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:19 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3904, April Ludgate wrote:People can say they don't like the case, but why say No instead of Maybe. I see no real reason to actively shut it away especially since i havent seen anyone try to town case Malcolm really.
End of the day, cases are weaksauce until Day 4+
Tbh I would I just lack spoons.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:21 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 3902, MathBlade wrote: In post 3901, VP Baltar wrote: In post 3896, April Ludgate wrote:Also, yeah, Fire/DV has scum in them, VPB. Don't know which, but you're stuck in the center of it.
Don't worry, fam. I got you if you're town. I'm leaning into my lim for a reason. I'll flip green to set this game right
I don’t think this is a good idea if you’re town.
People do this and it works at best 25-50% of the time
You play how you play, I play how I play. Scum want to come at me, I will make them do it head on and regret it long term.
Think about how I saved you last game. Scum were coming for me and you that day and we fucked them up because of my PR and you being cleared.
I'm not an easy lim and scum will have bloody noses out of it.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:22 pm
by Yeet
I like the case
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:23 pm
by Yeet
I’m gonna be honest I’m not reading stuff super carefully but what I’ve seen aligns with what I agree with so yeah
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:23 pm
by MathBlade
Problem is I likely die tonight so it’s nothing like last game.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:23 pm
by Yeet
You were likely to die last game too…
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:23 pm
by April Ludgate
Are we over this VPB wagon yet?
The DV-Fire line is sketching it up, and I really don't think it's an optimal fade.
I like Yeet. Yeet's in my town block.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:24 pm
by Yeet
Thicc townblocc
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:24 pm
by Yeet
Goodnight fams
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:25 pm
by MathBlade
How do you know what game VP is talking about?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:25 pm
by Yeet
Idk I just assumed
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:26 pm
by April Ludgate
You're kind of a direct opposition to me, so I can see you living if your reads aren't spot on/scum controlled gamestate around a conf town.
I can also see me dying if my reads are more accurate with the easy defense of "whaaat? they just did that to frame me!"
But I don't think I die Night 2, I'm a N3-N4 kill, if not faded.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:28 pm
by April Ludgate
Oh well, Math said they dont wanna push me until they've seen what I'm doing, or whatever it was they said.
So until my Malcolm read is proven incorrect, I guess here we are.
Glad Nero can see that I'm town, even if reluctantly.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:28 pm
by MathBlade
That’s not an assumption
That was stated as fact
VOTE: Yeet
If this flips red scum are also someone who played with me last game
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:29 pm
by April Ludgate
I think people just don't want me to be right, but frankly, I only think I know 1 scum for sure.
This is hella hard to get this wagon going on a slot I feel nobody's really defending.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:42 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 3912, April Ludgate wrote:Are we over this VPB wagon yet?
The DV-Fire line is sketching it up, and I really don't think it's an optimal fade.
im not. i don't think his attacks (or his willingness to die) are genuine. but if it's not gonna happen id switch back to malc
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:46 pm
by DeasVail
Nah.
Also like it or not, you have to face the fact that at least one of me/Fire is town.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:49 pm
by DeasVail
In post 3920, April Ludgate wrote:I think people just don't want me to be right, but frankly, I only think I know 1 scum for sure.
This is hella hard to get this wagon going on a slot I feel nobody's really defending.
I don’t really agree. Not many players have posted since the wagon took off, it hasn’t been very long, and not many active players have /not/ voted Malcolm.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:28 pm
by Cape90
Who is boon?
Also Malcolm is town stop.
Looking at Deas' recent content, I think Deas Vail is town