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In post 3900, Ausuka wrote:Tbh I don't scumread any of the VT claims other than Dwlee

Not saying I have them all locktown or whatever but I'd need convincing

In post 3897, Titus wrote:

In post 3895, Aristeia wrote:I guess I just feel uncomfortable putting things on auto pilot there's not a lot of solving

That's where I feel like I shine. That's why I am ok with either Enchant or Wallflower.

If another VT I'd go StD.

In post 3906, Ausuka wrote:I mean I want to talk more before Ari potentially dies because I'm far from confident in a WF scumflip

But like yeah limming wallflower is fine

In post 3829, Enchant wrote:

In post 3827, Ausuka wrote:I dislike Dwlee's read on me but am aware I am heavily biased on that so

Does anyone else think it's weird?? Like the progression of Ausuka is tunneled, Ausuka is single mindedly tunneling me (which I don't think I was?) to being willing to vote Ausuka based just on that reasoning

I also don't like their progression from scumreading Bella at the start of the day when that was a pretty fashionable read iirc to then going onto Implo when that again iirc was looking like an easy push toward the latter end of d2, seemingly dropping their earlier scumpool not including implosion

But again I might be like *actually* tunneled at this point so I'm interested in hearing other perspectives on their ISO

I know I was going to keep my reads private but... It's not like I'm always going to jail my top scumread, I would be willing to jail anyone to reduce predictability and because of rather low read confidence, so it's fine I think. A hypothetical world with town Wallflower and Enchant where Ari dies tonight and we don't have much reads discussion going on seems like a very bad world!

Just in a case, i taked BP to meme.

I don't remember Mala being in any way memetic.

In post 3833, Wallflower wrote:

In post 3823, Ausuka wrote:Wallflower who should we be looking at after you flip town

Spoiler:

I actually want to say I really appreciate you asking. I think I have been more self-defeating than I should have been here and while I've had the "no one listens to dead town" mantra going through my head it really is just perpetuating my self-indulgent wallowing.

I'm much more dayplay-focused than mechanics-focused, and so I'm not sure if I've completely gotten my head around everything, but I consider the almost-certain town to be:

Harley Quinn - Possible (probable?) N1 kill target. Appears genuinely confused as to why scum would try to kill Ausuka N2. The turnaround on Math was very much not like scum positioning etc.
Ausuka - The paranoid world where Ausuka has made all this up is... not likely? Ausuka in no way needed to frame me if scum.
Ari - HEM-interactions very probably not distancing. The paranoid world where Ari as scum no-kills in order to claim doctor saves is also... very unlikely.

I've had Titus and Implo in my mind as possible scum, but I'm still questioning Titus in particular and whether she would "take charge" as she has. But, the interactions with Mathblade reminded me of Titus-scum/Math-town dynamic I've seen elsewhere and reading back on Titus' play around the Mathblade wagons, it just feels agenda-driven to me.

Implo just keeps coming up for me because of reasons I've said before, but also I wonder if him being the most willing to consider the possibility that scum targeted Ausuka, is because he knows that scum did target Ausuka.

Roden, Enchant, even Gamma also feel possible to me but less likely. I often have Roden as town in my mind, but then I keep forgetting he exists.

The way Enchant claimed yesterday felt unnecessary for scum to do, especially since I think scum would have considered claiming BP there to be a bad idea

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Spoiler:

And I still don't know whether Gamma knew they were hammering Math or not, but the votes against Ari felt needlessly inflammatory for scum to do.

STD, Bella and Dwlee feel a bit more town to me based on play but I guess there's nothing ABSOLUTELY ruling them out.

I guess the main thing is I want to make sure not to make any premature assumptions. I've had experiences before where I've just town-binned scum for what felt like good reasons at the time. But I know that it might be my flip that's needed to get people to think in a more open-minded way. To think about what might be going on that isn't the obvious.

In post 3911, Harley Quinn wrote:3833 tells you everything you need to know.

Wallflower: Enchant=town, Imposion=scum. And has Titus as another possibility in case we all get misted by this.

In post 3913, Gamma Emerald wrote:Enchant is not town
He would’ve been more clear about his pick logic earlier if he was

In post 3907, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 3906, Ausuka wrote:I mean I want to talk more before Ari potentially dies because I'm far from confident in a WF scumflip

But like yeah limming wallflower is fine

If it weren’t literally for Implosion’s role, I would 100% lim Enchant but the way he’s been talking, makes me think he’s either trying to get us to lim him and then we have Wallflower saying she doesn’t think the most obvscum player in the game isn’t scum. Does that sound believable to you? Does anyone seriously tr Enchant here? And she’s hardpushing Implosion - the only slot who can ensure you live 2 nights.

It’s HEM/Wallflower/Enchant. STD is only a possibility if that’s wrong but I really don’t think that is.

~HQ,
scum wifom detector

In post 3916, Ausuka wrote:but what if I want to chat with dats in the dead pt with spoilers

In post 3919, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 3916, Ausuka wrote:but what if I want to chat with dats in the dead pt with spoilers

But you’re the only thing we have that’s functionally like a cop.

Well, I see scum Wallflower getting jk’d again but scum maybe no killing, so you fakeclear her causing chaos and paranoia.

I’m not falling for it.

In post 3918, Ausuka wrote:

In post 3907, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 3906, Ausuka wrote:I mean I want to talk more before Ari potentially dies because I'm far from confident in a WF scumflip

But like yeah limming wallflower is fine

If it weren’t literally for Implosion’s role, I would 100% lim Enchant but the way he’s been talking, makes me think he’s either trying to get us to lim him and then we have Wallflower saying she doesn’t think the most obvscum player in the game isn’t scum. Does that sound believable to you? Does anyone seriously tr Enchant here? And she’s hardpushing Implosion - the only slot who can ensure you live 2 nights.

It’s HEM/Wallflower/Enchant. STD is only a possibility if that’s wrong but I really don’t think that is.

~HQ,
scum wifom detector

I mean if I'm being honest enchant and wallflower seems like

Way too easy

But I hope you're right and we should easily win if you are

I guess I can see how someone thinks Enchant is town, I had a similar thought at one point but then was like "am I seriously going to townread this ISO"

In post 3920, Ausuka wrote:I guess what I'm saying is

Yeah wallflower and Enchant need to die or be confirmed by jailkeep

Neither should be allowed to endgame if scum

But I want us to discuss the other players while Ari and implo and other towny ppl are still alive