I'll tell you what I know so well
You're scum and you're not acting well
You know you should admit your guilt
Gonna get you now
Gonna get to you
I'm lynching you with inspiration
A-a-a-a-aah a-a-ah a-a-ah a-a-a-a-aah
Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on
You and nobody else
Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on
Just walk this way
Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on
You and nobody else
I wanna take you out of this thread
Just want to lynch you
Just want to lynch you
Lynch you
Just want to lynch you
Just want to lynch you
Lynch you
I won't lynch, I won't lynch
I won't lynch anybody else
I won't lynch, I won't lynch
I won't lynch anybody else
I won't lynch, I won't lynch
I won't lynch anybody else
I won't lynch, I won't lynch
I won't lynch anybody else
If you want specific posts, copy-paste that link and open it.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:28 am
by Chito and Yuuri
Chito: Yeah, but I'm not seeing posts there that look like 937 in Steven Universe, which is one of the posts that bugs me in particular. So you're saying right now looks more like "mastina can have strong reads" not that "mastina is confidently outside her scum range" which is the argument everyone else is having. Near is not arguing that mastina has bad reads as town, he is arguing she is scum. So you are refuting an argument he isn't even making, as far as I can tell.
In that game, mastina simply updates her reads list a lot, but she doesn't make these long wallposts over-analyzing every movement of her reads list.
I'd still prefer to flip Gamma first but I'm not like, shocked that mastina is being scumread here, and I think that you trying to browbeat people with death threats is needless and distracting AtE. If you think she's town, say the thought processes that you think can only come from town mastina, don't go "if she flips town then I will murder you!" because that is just not an interesting argument.
Like, I'm not in love with scum mastina here, but threatening people about reads is not making this game more interesting or enjoyable to play. And it's not convincing me that you are attempting to take a fresh playstyle this game which makes me wonder whether your complaints about your main being outed aren't possibly in bad faith.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:32 am
by Elena Fisher
Chito what do your reads look like at the moment?
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:46 pm
by mastina
Fucking hell, as if I wasn't already having a bad enough day……
MOD: V/LA DUE TO SNOMWMAGEDDON: SNOWPACOLYPSE DEITION
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At this rate, we could make a full film series!
SNOWMAGEDDON: "
Hell's not Fire and Brimstone…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON 2: SNOW MORE: "
We Weren't Ready for the Comeback…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON 3: SNOWFALL: "
The Mighty Fallen…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON: SNOWVALANCHE: "
Get Ready to be Buried…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON STRIKES AGAIN: "
There's SNOW Escaping…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON SIX: SNOWPACOLYPSE: "
The End is Upon Us…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON SEVEN: RAGNAROK: "
The Final Installment…
"
SNOWMAGEDDON: SNOW AGE: "
Get Ready for Glaciers…
"
…Admit it. It'd totally work as a cheap SyFy disaster flic film series.
But yeah.
Wish me luck going home.
Given the rest of my day thusfar. I need it.
In post 1766, Almost50 wrote:I think I want to pull a N_M in this game. I'll just pop-up to lol!hammer someone :P
try it if you want lol
I think you're town enough to not care
In post 2072, Gamma Emerald wrote:holy fucking gross
just because I miscommunicate info I'm no longer town? VOTE: Almost50, let's fucking jam my dude
In post 2085, Gamma Emerald wrote:Honestly I haven't really had cohesive reads, I've just been staying in the moment thinking that I'd get them eventually
I don't really have anyone I townread rn, it's mostly scumreads
My A50 vote was 100% tilt
anyway I don't see any way this changes VOTE: Near x Mello
They've consistently been scummy during D3 and there's the previously mentioned meta weirdness. Everyone is arguing over other options but I think this is the direction.
VOTE: Almost50
Again, will provide more when I can.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:04 pm
by Almost50
In post 3933, mastina wrote:VOTE: Almost50
Again, will provide more when I can.
@Joan: What did I tell you?
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:05 pm
by Almost50
I told Joan that mastina's going to push me still, and then try to lynch Gamma when she can't lynch me. OMG!
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:31 pm
by Pink Ball
I confirm everything Almost50 has said about our convo in Channel 1. We both tried to be polite about our opinions and why are we scumreading mastina, but she started with the whole "if mastina flips green you both die, you agree with that?"; Almost said yes, I said "eh sure but I don't think I'm getting lynched even if mastina flips green so whatever", and after we agreed she kept going and going and going until we started discussing and escalated to the point of no return: I don't trust Joan. Not scumreading her, but I don't trust her to work together with her, 'cause her approach is absolutely anti town and uncolaborative. She started treating me in a despiteful way, I called her out, and she answers me "Oh so you don't like it? Why don't you call out Wisdom when he does it?"; I answered her that I don't like Wisdom's playstyle either and that I have told him before, but that's my problem and not his so I won't be going everytime saying "hey Wisdom I don't like how you play". And I repped in knowing Wisdom was in, and I've played other games with him and I've learned to understand his playstyle and respect it. Same with Dunn, same with Maria, same with RC. Throwing a tantrum because you don't like a player is bullshit and is totally on you.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:34 pm
by Pink Ball
@Torque I have information you don't have about A50, you shouldn't vote him.
We could go with this forever, and at this point it has turned to a clash between different channel members townreading each other and scumreading the ones on other channels.
Elena's reads are horrendous; saying I'm scum is maybe the worst read so far in this game, and she has pushed it with awful arguments.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:56 pm
by Torque
Pink Ball, mafia chat
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:01 pm
by Pink Ball
I'll check
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:13 pm
by Joan of Arc
In post 3935, Almost50 wrote:I told Joan that mastina's going to push me still, and then try to lynch Gamma when she can't lynch me. OMG!
That doesn't automatically make you town. :/
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:22 pm
by Joan of Arc
I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Mastina is scum for pushing her scumread despite others' words, yet N x M, who is essentially doing the same, is town? Get real.
*yawn*
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:51 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
Alrighty so.
Chito/Yuuri: The stuff you were pointing out about the similarities between this game and Story Revisited are quite literally Joan's *expected* play. Mastina was(from waht I've heard about that game in here) coaching her to play in a manner that matched her town meta, and so I wouldn't view similarities between this game and that one as scum indicative.
RE:A50 : Is Gamma/A50 a possibility? Because if not, I'm not seeing why A50 shows up trying to push the Elena/Mastina situation. He did make the move of stating his stance on those slots via PT's early in the day, so had to follow up, but he *didn't* need to maintain the same position. He could have had conversations in the PT's while the Gamma talk was going on and been "swayed" to see him as a lynch, without it reflecting too poorly on him. I only see this line coming from scum!him if he's bussing one of mastina/elena, and wants to, if his lynch doesn't go through, be able to point at the gamma lynch as one he was vocally opposed to.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:06 am
by Almost50
How come nobody commented on my remark regarding the 2 Millers? How do we have 2 Millers and no Cop/Investigative? It literally mentions an Investigative in their role pms, yet no one is coming forward (or even hinting) having any results on anyone. Unless the investigative was stupid enough to target Toog on N2, and had targeted someone else who died on N1.
Aside from that, I think I've made my case and have been clear about it.
@cerb: Explain why scum!Elena as
my partner
makes mastina Loved when my main lynch target was mastina!
Explain why Town!Elena makes mastina Loved at all, and why I would start the day still pushing mastina.
But
most importantly
where the fuck were you going with the flavor claim BS, and why did you stop pushing it? I'm starting to find your stances and activity a bit suspicious too. You're not doing the work I would expect you to at this stage of the game, and you're not making much sense. Have I been fooled for the 4th time into trusting you when you're scum?? If so, congrats. I concede.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:14 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
In post 3943, Almost50 wrote:How come nobody commented on my remark regarding the 2 Millers? How do we have 2 Millers and no Cop/Investigative? It literally mentions an Investigative in their role pms, yet no one is coming forward (or even hinting) having any results on anyone. Unless the investigative was stupid enough to target Toog on N2, and had targeted someone else who died on N1.
Aside from that, I think I've made my case and have been clear about it.
@cerb: Explain why scum!Elena as
my partner
makes mastina Loved when my main lynch target was mastina!
Explain why Town!Elena makes mastina Loved at all, and why I would start the day still pushing mastina.
But
most importantly
where the fuck were you going with the flavor claim BS, and why did you stop pushing it? I'm starting to find your stances and activity a bit suspicious too. You're not doing the work I would expect you to at this stage of the game, and you're not making much sense. Have I been fooled for the 4th time into trusting you when you're scum?? If so, congrats. I concede.
1) I got your claim from people in my hood, so I had no reason to push you for it.
2) As far as pushing it from everyone, nobody who I actually want to hear from is engaging with me on the subject.
And the reason why scum!elena as your partner makes mastina loved is specifically so you can keep pushing her, and to create distance between your slot and hers. Town!Elena makes mastina loved because people have been wanting to lynch her throughout the game, and she townreads her?
These are not very complicated actions, A50.
As for why we have two millers and no investigative claims/results: the obvious assumption/answer is because those abilities are time-gated ones, not starting abilities?
Because here's the thing. No matter how STRONGLY I may townread the two of you(which, for the record, is a meh thing, but it's more like I don't have a reason to scumread you), I'm now okay with lynching either of you at any point because I'll be damned if someone who is scum is going to get away with blatantly claiming scum in thread.
-Yukiteru
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:43 am
by Reasonably Psychotic
In post 3943, Almost50 wrote:How come nobody commented on my remark regarding the 2 Millers? How do we have 2 Millers and no Cop/Investigative? It literally mentions an Investigative in their role pms, yet no one is coming forward (or even hinting) having any results on anyone. Unless the investigative was stupid enough to target Toog on N2, and had targeted someone else who died on N1.
Aside from that, I think I've made my case and have been clear about it.
@cerb: Explain why scum!Elena as
my partner
makes mastina Loved when my main lynch target was mastina!
Explain why Town!Elena makes mastina Loved at all, and why I would start the day still pushing mastina.
But
most importantly
where the fuck were you going with the flavor claim BS, and why did you stop pushing it? I'm starting to find your stances and activity a bit suspicious too. You're not doing the work I would expect you to at this stage of the game, and you're not making much sense. Have I been fooled for the 4th time into trusting you when you're scum?? If so, congrats. I concede.
ALSO
Why are you asking me about Elena as your partner? Like holy shit, did you not read my previous post(which was so off the cuff that I actually didn't remember what I had said at the time I wrote my response to you, so if you didn't read it I get it)? In that post, I pretty clearly say that only if A50/Gamma is a thing do I really see your line making a lot of sense. Like, we were basically saying the same *sort* of thing, but then you come back responding to me as though I *wasn't* agreeing with the comments you were making? I see the universe can exist where those things happen and you're partnered with Elena, but I don't view them as very likely.
I know that. I was referring to 2), but since you brought it up, what did my flavor tell you? You seem undecided on me yet, so what good was it, Mr Informed?
In post 3944, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:2) As far as pushing it from everyone, nobody who I actually want to hear from is engaging with me on the subject.
Yeah, and cerb is likely to succumb to being ignored and will not push for something he believes in mechanically good for the town. *Smirk*
In post 3944, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:And the reason why scum!elena as your partner makes mastina loved is specifically so you can keep pushing her, and to create distance between your slot and hers.
So, my partner makes my lynch target Loved so I can keep pushing them and they push me and them having the advantage of being Loved I get lynched over them. Got it. Makes sense.
In post 3944, Reasonably Psychotic wrote: Town!Elena makes mastina loved because people have been wanting to lynch her throughout the game, and she townreads her?
That wasn't exactly my question. Only half of it. The other half is why would I still be pushing my Loved partner and they push me back? And WITH TWO BLOODY MILLERS GUARANTEEING WE HAVE AN INVESTIGATIVE, how the hell do we know if one of us didn't get checked already? We can't both be GFs, can we? So why do we risk lynching the GF (if one existed) and have the other guiltied?
Not at all. I agree. It's just that they're complicated for me, because I'm stupid. But for the magnificent cerb, I can see all that coming from scum!him. Yes, cerb would instruct his scum partner to make his main lynch target Loved and/or push his partner and have them push him back to the point of no return. GENIUS.
In post 3944, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:As for why we have two millers and no investigative claims/results: the obvious assumption/answer is because those abilities are time-gated ones, not starting abilities?
Hmmm.. "You are a Miller starting N1. However, there is no investigative to be "milled" until N3. And to make it more interesting, I will toss in another Miller too." Again, makes perfect sense. How did I miss that?
You may take your seat. Thank you.
P-edit: Oh, there's more from where that came from. Let me get enlightened and get back to you.
