Fish was dying soon anyway and that's really the strongest form of a bus you can get.
:/
How many times have you seen scum shoot a partner? Cause for me, the answer is twice. In 6 years of forum mafia.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:11 am
by Bingle
Like literally the argument here is that scum with two kills decided not to kill in the cop hood they knew about. Decided not to kill the claimed vig. Decided not to kill the unknown threats. And instead actively shot his own partner, who was himself apparently a watcher. One of the strongest scum investigation roles. You can’t get much more playing against wincon than that.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 am
by Flavor Leaf
Ugh. Croag’s adorably town.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:10 am
by Flavor Leaf
@Croag - you should check me tonight, actually. If you get a Town result, the proves you are the Naive Cop, and PP would be the same cop.
If you’re the Sane cop, i think it makes me wanna throw any potential of ScumPP completely out the window.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:10 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 3926, Bingle wrote:Like literally the argument here is that scum with two kills decided not to kill in the cop hood they knew about. Decided not to kill the claimed vig. Decided not to kill the unknown threats. And instead actively shot his own partner, who was himself apparently a watcher. One of the strongest scum investigation roles. You can’t get much more playing against wincon than that.
He shot Kagami, though, who was in the cop hood.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:11 am
by Flavor Leaf
I also don’t believe Fish was Vig killed. CprDoc killed him, and Marquis is covering for the CPR doc.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:13 am
by Bingle
In post 3930, Flavor Leaf wrote:I also don’t believe Fish was Vig killed. CprDoc killed him, and Marquis is covering for the CPR doc.
Which is why Marquis/JJD is possible.
But if chenn is scumCPR doc, one of the cops has to be covering for him thus scum, and Marquis would have to be town.
Alternatively, if CPRdoc didn't kill Fish, Marquis p much has to have. And again, he knew there were 2-3 town cops in a hood, a claimed town vig and 6 other roles of unknown power, and he supposedly CHOSE to shoot Fish for towncred. That's literally the hoop that JJD is jumping through here to justify a scumread on Marquis that doesn't involve JJD being scum first.
From town JJD's perspective, Marquis is conftown. JJD IS SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE THAT OUT. JJD is pushing us to lynch Marquis first.
Therefore: JJD is scumlordz.
Why the fuck haven't I gotten this lynch yet? I've only been shouting for it for a month and a half.
I agree that if JJD doesn't flip the scum role that literally clears Marquis I have to hard reevaluate Marquis.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:37 am
by FakeGod
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:06 am
by Bingle
^that is a shitty VC.
Fakegod, vote JJD. You know you want to.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:36 am
by Judge Joseph Dredd
In post 3928, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Croag - you should check me tonight, actually. If you get a Town result, the proves you are the Naive Cop, and PP would be the same cop.
If you’re the Sane cop, i think it makes me wanna throw any potential of ScumPP completely out the window.
Another scum claim from the GREAT FL! If this came from just about anyone else I'd have let it pass, but YOU.. you are one of the GREATEST (No BS) and you know better.
You are planning on shooting PP next, aren't you? You want to guarantee that Croag doesn't get a beneficial result -just in case she is the sane Cop. She checks you and she gets and inno and she's Naive. If she gets a guilty, you're a Miller anyway. WHAT GOOD is her check on you at this time?? Why can't she check ME tonight so IF she is the sane Cop she -at least- returns a GOOD result?
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:53 am
by Flavor Leaf
That actually works too.
But PenguinPower probably doesn’t die tonight. He’s caffeinated.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:04 pm
by Judge Joseph Dredd
In post 3936, Flavor Leaf wrote:But PenguinPower probably doesn’t die tonight. He’s caffeinated.
So is everyone that can be targeted with a kill, except for chenn. Then again, as long as there is one townie between Vecna/Bingle; targeting the uncaffeinated players is useless. Scum will need to get rid of the Cops to avoid having more conf!townies outside of the untargetables until they can eventually push for the lynch of the townie(s) in there.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:06 pm
by Judge Joseph Dredd
And that's one more reason for us to lynch Marquis, btw. Either way he is caffeinated and he claims to be out of shots, so his flip isn't disasterous for Town, but will give us all plenty of info.
In post 3936, Flavor Leaf wrote:But PenguinPower probably doesn’t die tonight. He’s caffeinated.
So is everyone that can be targeted with a kill, except for chenn. Then again, as long as there is one townie between Vecna/Bingle; targeting the uncaffeinated players is useless. Scum will need to get rid of the Cops to avoid having more conf!townies outside of the untargetables until they can eventually push for the lynch of the townie(s) in there.
Oh, this is correct.i didn’t think of this. Scum have to win by outnumbering town unless they can get the townie in them lynched.
Oi, that actually does really raise potential scum equity...
That likely means there is for sure a scum within that group.
Still probably Marquis.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:27 pm
by Vecna
I think Marquis is in some need of prodding. It sure feels like it at least.
@Bingle: OK.. let's get to the "verifiable facts" here.. I want you to state one more time the final version of your case on me. Why am I scum? No ifs and buts. ONE solid "verifiable" narrative.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:14 pm
by Bingle
First of all, verifiable facts here refers to chennisden saying that my defending marquis being town was like flat earthers when in point of fact it was about an uncounterclaimed vig on scum and several points no one has argued against.
Second of all, I've cased you multiple times over multiple days. If anyone who isn't scum can't be bothered to ISO me to find that, they can damn well ask me themselves.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:37 pm
by FakeGod
In post 3940, Vecna wrote:I think Marquis is in some need of prodding. It sure feels like it at least.
prodded
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:34 pm
by Flavor Leaf
JJD knows how to AtE me correctly, and I will say it is working, JJD, but like 99% of me just sees you as scum, but your ate has been successful to make me doubt a lot.
And if you are town, scum did well at framing you.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:34 pm
by Flavor Leaf
But I think that you did well at fighting it and getting around things that we can’t really explain, and that’s indicative of scum interference
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:26 am
by Croag
i wasnt gonna check anyone who asked me to check them anyway lol