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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:16 am
by Lady 5
Okay, I'm off for real this time.
I'm likely leaving the dance when I return, I'll probably have things to say about what's been posted in the interim, but I don't believe my continued presence will be to town's benefit in this game.
If G8 is replaced and has a presence before I'm back, I will wait on leaving.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:17 am
by Lady 7
And if you actually believe in your scum read and the basis for it, stick around. Put my feet to the fire. Don’t run away because it’s not productive.
Petit: in my first post about the tell, I was expecting the length of paragraph structuring scum tell. That was a horrible scum tell people were trying to pass off some years back. In my petit, I said nope new one, not the tell I was expecting. Then I said the best description I’ve gotten concerning my posts and how I run through my thoughts. I wasn’t making any comment on your ability to scumhunt. I was saying what other people have said about me and how I make my posts. The floating diary is my favorite. I then made a joke about PowerPoints. The next post was me referencing how sometimes people have been mean in the way they address me, but better - not mean- sometimes see the value in my posts.
None of that was me making a comment on your ability as a scum hunter. It was about me and the various comments I’ve gotten on my posts throughout the years.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:20 am
by Lady 5
I see, I apologize.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:20 am
by Lady 7
In post 3923, Lady 6 wrote:We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.
Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.
Is the second half to me?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:23 am
by Lady 2
L5, please do not leave dance, especially not before G8's replacement takes over the slot and says something. I'm really not comfortable with the way your pair is being pushed right now as the lynch that needs to happen first and I DO NOT want your pair to be the first pair out a) without you and G8 having time to give input that might make you readable and b) without enough people having to commit a vote to actually lynch your pair.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:27 am
by Lady 7
In post 3928, Lady 7 wrote: In post 3923, Lady 6 wrote:We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.
Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.
Is the second half to me?
I know it says l7, but you addressed me earlier about something that wasn’t about me so I’m not sure.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:32 am
by Lady 7
Not a problem. Online communication and intent can be tricky.
I’m wordy and sometimes come at things in roundabout ways that sometimes don’t have a clear conclusion. I’ve gotten crap about it since I started playing until people get used to me. My beacon works how it works and it’s not gonna change.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:33 am
by Lady 7
*my brain works....
Have I mentioned how much I suck at phone posting
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:35 am
by FakeGod
Gentleman 8 has been replaced.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:42 am
by Gentleman 8
Some loser named FakeGod wanted me to party hardy. What's the news of the world?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:42 am
by Lady 6
In post 3930, Lady 7 wrote: In post 3928, Lady 7 wrote: In post 3923, Lady 6 wrote:We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.
Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.
Is the second half to me?
I know it says l7, but you addressed me earlier about something that wasn’t about me so I’m not sure.
It is.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:47 am
by Gentleman 8
Glanced through the dance PT, L5 has been talking to herself a lot. Out of context it looks pretty solvey but seems to assume I'm town. I'm not tracking down timestamps to figure out when she was having specific thoughts about things, but does the assumption I'm town make sense?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:54 am
by Gentleman 8
Gentleman 2 - Lady 9
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6
Gentleman 8 - Lady 5
Gentleman 1 - Lady 2
So OP gives me these pairs to work with. Who is obvtown?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:08 am
by Lady 7
In post 3935, Lady 6 wrote: In post 3930, Lady 7 wrote: In post 3928, Lady 7 wrote: In post 3923, Lady 6 wrote:We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.
Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.
Is the second half to me?
I know it says l7, but you addressed me earlier about something that wasn’t about me so I’m not sure.
It is.
Okay. I don't think knowing my main would help you on reading me, but you might be happy to see me?
What do you think of G3? Do you think you're in a town/town pair and if so, why?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:12 am
by Lady 7
In post 3936, Gentleman 8 wrote:Glanced through the dance PT, L5 has been talking to herself a lot. Out of context it looks pretty solvey but seems to assume I'm town. I'm not tracking down timestamps to figure out when she was having specific thoughts about things, but does the assumption I'm town make sense?
It doesn't make that much sense? Your predecessor was a complete blank slate who barely posted, and if I recall correctly didn't post anything game related at all. The opinions on your alignment based on the way your predecessor went about choosing your partner are mixed. Some people think you're definitely scum for it, the dead l4 thought you might have chosen l5 because she was such a distraction, and others thought you might be town because the basic consensus predance was that if anyone chose your dance partner they were going to be policy lynched immediately. But really who knows with L5 numero uno because she was a very very very special case.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:16 am
by Lady 7
In post 3937, Gentleman 8 wrote:Gentleman 2 - Lady 9
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6
Gentleman 8 - Lady 5
Gentleman 1 - Lady 2
So OP gives me these pairs to work with. Who is obvtown?
Nobody is obviously town, not even G2 the IC, and it's driving me bonkers. I think I feel the best about L2 and L6, but I wouldn't bet the game on it.
(Except me, I'm obviously town, but I'm not sure if my beacon is shining.)
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:33 am
by Gentleman 8
That's kinda spicy, actually. Why didn't the IC pair die?
What's the take on G3?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:06 pm
by Lady 7
That's the million dollar question. L5 numero uno thought scum didn't kill the IC to set L9 up. This IC, IC Junior, hasn't been around all that much and doesn't really seem to be reading the game. L9 made a strong showing early game and garnered some early town reads and the original IC chose her because he wanted someone to analyze the game with. Well then IC Sr became IC Jr and he and L9 pretty much dipped from the game. I was hoping that it was so that they could avoid the night kill and would come out swinging in dance two, but that's not really been the case.
So who knows?
I've suspected G3 since earlyish? IDK. G6 declared he knew L6 and G3's main and they were both town without a doubt due to meta, and nobody has really questioned that.
We're basically in a really weird space. Dance I ended prematurely with a town implosion and two towns going at each other and both leaving the dance, and then my last two town reads died in intermission, and here we are swimming in goo.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:30 pm
by Lady 9
In post 3929, Lady 2 wrote:L5, please do not leave dance, especially not before G8's replacement takes over the slot and says something. I'm really not comfortable with the way your pair is being pushed right now as the lynch that needs to happen first and I DO NOT want your pair to be the first pair out a) without you and G8 having time to give input that might make you readable and b) without enough people having to commit a vote to actually lynch your pair.
I'm a little confused, what is the problem with lady 5/gent 8 going first, if your pair goes next? And why does the order matter?
By poe, it's pretty likely that Gent 8 is scum, him replacing in and starting to play the game doesn't really show that, and it's hard looking at what he's saying right now without thinking that he could have been coached or whatnot extensively before posting this stuff. Basically what I'm saying is, though fascinating, I think we still need to lynch them this game.
As a reminder, we do have a deadline, and I believe we lose when that hits 0
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:59 pm
by Lady 2
Short answer is because G1 has been saying - all he's been saying of substance since First Dance started - is that L5 needs to go ASAP. Now multiple players including you - players I do not greatly trust - are pushing very hard on a narrative that L5/G8 have to go before me and G1. This includes G7 suggesting that G1/L2 is more likely T-S and G8/L5 T-T and also let's lynch L5/G8 first. This includes you making a bizarrely strong case against G8 possibly being Town. Like honestly what??? What are you saying??? I never said wow, now that we have new G8 he is immediately posting stuff that's super incontrovertibly Town. I'm saying he has a chance to post material that is readable and alignment-indicative, which we never got from the old slot (especially if the inactivity mainly stemmed from irl illness, as Fakegod implied). We
might
still need to lynch them this game. Might. A real possibility but not 100% a given. Why are you jumping to telling me that G8 could be coached already?
That's the short answer because I'm on mobile and need to cook some food but also not super short because I have no self-control when it comes to explaining these types of things.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:03 pm
by Lady 7
What does he look like he's doing right now that he would have needed to be coached extensively to do?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:03 pm
by Gentleman 8
In post 3943, Lady 9 wrote: In post 3929, Lady 2 wrote:L5, please do not leave dance, especially not before G8's replacement takes over the slot and says something. I'm really not comfortable with the way your pair is being pushed right now as the lynch that needs to happen first and I DO NOT want your pair to be the first pair out a) without you and G8 having time to give input that might make you readable and b) without enough people having to commit a vote to actually lynch your pair.
I'm a little confused, what is the problem with lady 5/gent 8 going first, if your pair goes next? And why does the order matter?
By poe, it's pretty likely that Gent 8 is scum, him replacing in and starting to play the game doesn't really show that, and it's hard looking at what he's saying right now without thinking that he could have been coached or whatnot extensively before posting this stuff. Basically what I'm saying is, though fascinating, I think we still need to lynch them this game.
As a reminder, we do have a deadline, and I believe we lose when that hits 0
How cute. I haven't been accused of being coached in literally years.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:07 pm
by Gentleman 8
In post 3944, Lady 2 wrote:This includes G7 suggesting that G1/L2 is more likely T-S and G8/L5 T-T and also let's lynch L5/G8 first.
Link, please?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:10 pm
by Lady 7
In post 3896, Gentleman 7 wrote: In post 3880, Gentleman 3 wrote:G8/L5 has even more strikes against it than it did before, and it already had too many
G2/L9 probably would have died had L9 been town and L9 has not been impressive anyway
G1/L2 definitely can't live.
G7/L7 is the only other pair I would consider letting live, and they should probably be the other final pair apart from us.
I agree with this quite a bit, and the only thing that would change my mind on this is if L5/G8 flips T/T.
VOTE: Lady 5
I'm kind of getting a bit paranoid of L7 myself, but I'm not sure if this is something that could come from scum to have her flip between scumreading me and then taking it back soon after. I firmly believe G3 is town, L5 is actually probably town but I think that pair shouldn't stick around until the end and out of the remaining people, they should probably go first.
G1/L2 should go as well, but I feel more confident that they will flip T/S in some way, while this might flip T/T, and is going to be more impactful on the game if that happens.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:12 pm
by Lady 9
It's a lot clearer than G8 is scum from my point of view, where I know I'm town, than it would be for you guys. For the coaching thing, his partners could have been telling him what to say when he came back (the old G8) and the new G8 could have picked that up right away upon coming in.
If the scum isn't in l5/g8, but also isn't me, what does the scumteam look like?