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Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:53 pm

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Tanner gets +townpoints for positioning me as Carl Weathers in a meme, significant improvement to very large mouth white lady
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Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:56 pm

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This like the exact same formula as yesterday from Krazy. I voice some suspicion on him and then he starts gunning for me. I loke him more start of day and he's then fine with me. You seem to be more interested in your own survival than anything else, Krazy.
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Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:56 pm

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Hectic can you remind me of your thought process on Chara-slot? It's a pain to find your trajectory due to the talk of mech-chara
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Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:01 pm

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In post 3926, Hectic wrote:This like the exact same formula as yesterday from Krazy. I voice some suspicion on him and then he starts gunning for me. I loke him more start of day and he's then fine with me. You seem to be more interested in your own survival than anything else, Krazy.
I just think the timing of your shift is weird. Two replacements come in and you start adjusting your positioning on me makes it seem possible that your sudden change on me is more due to Prism no longer being in the game. Maybe you are just... Hectic... and your thoughts move at willynilly. But it seems like something scum would do in a fluid gamestate.
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Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:09 pm

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I wasn't in any danger in this game state since Pooky is the only one who wants me. There's no scum motivation in positioning to vote you when I can continue to keep my reads static and gun for Pooky.

I've liked Chara most the game pretty consistently. I found the big wall they made on Prism paranoia quite genuine and emotion-driven, and disagreed with Prism's assessment at the time that it was scummy. I still haven't looked properly at Prism's case for why their progressions/interactions were scummy because I've been lacking the WIM lately. Reserves are pretty low.
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Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:11 pm

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I guess I'm trying to wrap my head around why you would have a slot you've townread but haven't read the scum case for above Lavender who seems like easy obvtown after day 2? Why is Lavender still under consideration compared to slots that might actually be scum?
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Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:12 pm

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In post 3866, Krazy wrote:
In post 3851, Hectic wrote:scum!Krazy would be a lot more okay with pushing this harsh/slightly mean angle than town!Krazy

this is also just an insane statement for Hectic to make given he played with me when I was town in Alisae's abandoned scumsman game
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Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:16 pm

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In post 3930, Krazy wrote:I guess I'm trying to wrap my head around why you would have a slot you've townread but haven't read the scum case for above Lavender who seems like easy obvtown after day 2? Why is Lavender still under consideration compared to slots that might actually be scum?
Chara's a lot townier than Lavender content-wise. Lavender has one moment of massive towniness in the late vote, but it's possible someone comes on to vote anyway and she takes the play for towncred.

I still just want Pooky tbh, but no motivation to case it further. Morning should help with her emojis.
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Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:19 pm

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idk I guess I kinda feel like that play just doesn't feel like it's in her scumrange? Like I agreed with Tanner's points about Lavender so much that I thought it was weird he felt the need to spell it out for so long, I think she's just town.

Chara has good vote positioning and didn't seem scummy to me in the way Prism thought he was scummy but he never did anything where I was like "okay now I can stop thinking about this slot" in the way that Lavender or Prism did
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Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:20 pm

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anyway that's like, almost off topic, I kinda wasn't sure I liked the end of your four part list but maybe you just haven't really thought about it very hard past pooky which could make sense too

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Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:23 pm

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Vote Pooky with me. Why are you against it again?
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Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:23 pm

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because im town you doofus :3
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Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:24 pm

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I feel like I walked you through why I thought Pooky was town like... yesterday lol
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Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:26 pm

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i say that with lots of love <3 *hugs Hectic*
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Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:26 pm

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I really dunno how you can still think I'm scum here :/
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Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:28 pm

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See, this is why I'm afraid to push anything $_$ because a magical lovable bear will pop out of nowhere and make me feel bad.

I could say the same though, Pooky.
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Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:29 pm

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I'm not even voting you right now
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Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:30 pm

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In post 3931, Hectic wrote:
In post 3866, Krazy wrote:
In post 3851, Hectic wrote:scum!Krazy would be a lot more okay with pushing this harsh/slightly mean angle than town!Krazy
this is also just an insane statement for Hectic to make given he played with me when I was town in Alisae's abandoned scumsman game
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Morning's assessment is probably more accurate
i'm interested in hearing more about this

also don't tell me "but you played in scumsman" because no
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Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:31 pm

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I have tremendous doubt and all sorts of fears about you being town and you apparently think it's impossible that I flip anything other than scum which is just wild to me
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Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:31 pm

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In post 3933, Krazy wrote:idk I guess I kinda feel like that play just doesn't feel like it's in her scumrange? Like I agreed with Tanner's points about Lavender so much
that I thought it was weird he felt the need to spell it out for so long
, I think she's just town.
is this a way of saying "i agree with tanner so much that i now think he's even more scum"? /s
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Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:37 pm

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In post 3943, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I have tremendous doubt and all sorts of fears about you being town and you apparently think it's impossible that I flip anything other than scum which is just wild to me
It's pretty clear we're both each other's number 1 scumreads. I'm not nearly as confident as I was at the time of start of day, as you can probably tell by my lack of motivation to case you more. I guess I'd have more WIM if I was more confident.

Now I'm more in the headspace of "I don't want to push this Pooky thing through in fear of being wrong" so there are many mixed feelings.
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Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:39 pm

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In post 3944, Tanner wrote:is this a way of saying "i agree with tanner so much that i now think he's even more scum"? /s
I mean, I didn't really think "Lavender is obvtown" was going to be a contested point today, but hey, this game is weird
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Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:40 pm

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In post 3942, Tanner wrote:
In post 3931, Hectic wrote:
In post 3866, Krazy wrote:
In post 3851, Hectic wrote:scum!Krazy would be a lot more okay with pushing this harsh/slightly mean angle than town!Krazy
this is also just an insane statement for Hectic to make given he played with me when I was town in Alisae's abandoned scumsman game
Oh yeah

Morning's assessment is probably more accurate
i'm interested in hearing more about this

also don't tell me "but you played in scumsman" because no
Krazy got mad at people and was harsh as town is the gist of what I remember. There were a few battles in the thread. I can't really remember specifics and at who. Who was it at, Krazy?
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Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:41 pm

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pooky you really should be voting
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Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 pm

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Fuck it. You're all town. my vote can be bought with pets. Pooky is winning so far. Even if he's still my best guess

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I think the take on Krazy was wild from Hectic so maybe you could conceivably say he is trying to set up future miselims or something. Really, would he need to do it like that though? I still think he's town but that's true for everyone

I am gonna scream my head off after this game if Lav is just scum all along. i'd be angry at no one in particular that i lost so much time stressing over this game for nothing

Pooky's D1 just kind of makes sense to me I guess if he's partnered with Ele/Puppy? He sort of distanced both of them but never hard bussed. His #1 was always catboi. all three of them pushed spares which I guess could be a tactic

It's impossible for me to consider Tanner or Krazy as scum, Tanner slightly more so but like I would be floored at this point either way.

Obviously i dont think Prism-Ali is scum either. Chara-Nacho I'm giving a chance at being scum solely because of Prism's immense suspicion of Chara and apparently the way it appears towny is exactly my weakness.
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