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The doctor that was also the most definitive investigative we have. Role watcher doesn’t do too much to directly catch scum imo.

In post 3925, Gamma Emerald wrote:The doctor that was also the most definitive investigative we have. Role watcher doesn’t do too much to directly catch scum imo.

Vanilla cop does particularly in a setup where they should be CCed. Eg, roleblocker and rolestopper should not both be town. Plus chkflip has that unclaimed modifier.

In post 3924, Titus wrote:If chkflip is town, that would create a powerful circle too.

Again what does chkflip do to actually catch scum?
The original term is follow the COP because a COP gets concrete mafia/not-mafia results. Vanilla cop and role watcher are not the same. Tracker is that way only with one mafia left.

Wtf do you mean unclaimed modifier

Why should vanilla cop be CCed? Did you see quiet CCing NM ever? I think you’re woefully misjudging the power of the roles in this game. If I catch wind it’s willful there will be blood.

In post 3822, chkflip wrote:That is correct. There's a modifier but if you don't mind I'd rather I kept it to myself, tyvm.

Can you not see the reason I might be non-specific?

This.

In post 3929, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why should vanilla cop be CCed? Did you see quiet CCing NM ever? I think you’re woefully misjudging the power of the roles in this game. If I catch wind it’s willful there will be blood.

I am saying scum are running out of claims. Chkflip's role does nothing on its own but it does force scum to claim vt or pr honestly which forces them into spots where they can be cced like DGB and the rolestopper.

In post 3836, Titus wrote:There's my work. It's now date night. TTYL.

He'd better treat you right. <3
Have a good time.

That's how you respond to that, not like a dick.

Give it a try next time.

Lazy Roleblocker does double dip, but there's a lot of that in this setup. The Lazy bit could POSSIBLY be a misnomer (which would be an easy thing for me to latch on because GOOFBALL IS BEING VERY UNPLEASANT WITH ME) but the Rolestopper was gated, I've got a modifier, Goof has a modifier, the Voyeur was weird, etc etc. I wouldn't put too much stock in a "town is too strong" rhetoric until I see more red flips.

In post 3843, Vaxkiller wrote:How does Vanilla cop help town, just claim everything, who the fuck cares about the modifier? What are your targets?

How does Voyeur help town? It's a piece of the overall puzzle. If there's a way to game this I'd love to hear it.

I gave my targets. Are you paying attention, Vax?

My head is a bit mushy from all this new information so i’m going to see if this will help me make more sense of it.

Confirmed PR:





Claimed PR:





VS

Norwee

Vouyer IS town role-watcher

Didn’t Binatog claim Voyeur?

Bina is probably universal backup

Voyeur sees night actions done to targeted player.
Watcher sees who target player but not what they did.

It’s not the same thing Momrangal.

In post 3938, Momrangal wrote:Bina is probably universal backup

No.
Bina can see that i was blocked, but not who did it.
It’s not what an watcher does.

Bina could see what role visited him target.
He could watch for a role, but not who did it.

He also claimed action every night but N1

Oh. The role watcher is not the same as a watcher.
I was thinking in terms of Watcher/Voyeur...

I need a cup of coffee.

Yeah a Universal Backup makes sense then.

Lazy seems like a pretty weird modifier to have for roleblocker if it's a scum role.

Hmm isn't it feasible that Chkflip and DGB could both be town?

@Gamma

In post 3910, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 3907, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 3906, Gamma Emerald wrote:We have a mechanical 1v1
I think that takes priority my dude

Which is?

Eh I guess it’s not really a 1v1 to everyone, but as I see things there’s practically no way both DGB and chkflip are town.

Ok so let's think about this.

We know DGB has the lazy modifier to his blocker role. (Binatog confirms it)
Chkflip's ISO shows at certain points that he is trying to force any role cops to claim. (Likely because he knows he is the town's investigative role and wants scum to out themselves?)

Does these make sense from scum players? I also think DGB has been townie by play.

Ask yourself, in a town that's as stacked as this. Why would you give scum a roleblocker role that stops working once they're the only scum left? (Assuming DGB scum)

I think it makes more sense to leave town PR claims alive for today instead of playing like a dumb and executing our town power in this crucial moment.

Leave alive:

Norwee
Luca Blight - Town by play.
Gamma Emerald - Town by play
DrippingGoofball - Town PR and town by play
Andresvmb - Town by play
Momrangal - Cleared town and town by play.
Binatog13 Town PR and town by play.


Hence, THIS should be our PoE today. Not in Chkflip/DGB.

Titus
Vaxkiller
BBMolla
chkflip
Hayker

EDIT:
Wops i didn't move Chkflip.

Leave alive:

Norwee
Luca Blight - Town by play.
Gamma Emerald - Town by play
DrippingGoofball - Town PR and town by play
Andresvmb - Town by play
Momrangal - Cleared town and town by play.
Binatog13 - Town PR and town by play.
chkflip - Town PR


Hence, THIS should be our PoE today. Not in Chkflip/DGB.

Titus
Vaxkiller
BBMolla
Hayker