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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:58 am
by Cheetory6
Oh wait she's voting Espe now.
I guess that's marginally better? :/

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:01 am
by Cheetory6
Someone better at this game than me take the wheel.
Please.
q.q

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:02 am
by Shadoweh
Literally after ffery said espe would be preferrable even! I have to go now i should be back before day phase maybe actually BYE EEEEEEE

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:06 am
by singersigner
No where did I say I was getting wary of Cheetory for unvoting Titus and voting Mastin. Everywhere did I say it was stupid.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:07 am
by fferyllt
Espe meta


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

espe town game. 30 posts in 3 days (close to spam compared to most of this game unless he's under threat of lynch. A few small townreads. Mostly unsubstantiated reads, with the exception of going after Wisdom for going after an easy target.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

another town game. lurked the hell out of this game. two reads - pushed beast for posturing and townread nacho for not playing to his scum meta.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

another lurky town game. pushed the sns wagon as an alternative to his own, and said it was his responsibility to make sure the lynch happened.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This is a scum-espe game.

he made 110 posts in about a month. Posts like this and like this show that he's a more willing to develop cases on people as scum than he is as town. As scum, he also seemed to have more consistent tabs on what's going on in the game even though he wasn't overly active. he pushed several players. he also took potshots often.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:09 am
by fferyllt
Cheetory are you against an espe lynch?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:09 am
by Cheetory6
singer wrote:Seems pretty sketch.
wow i cant imagine why i would think u thot i was scummy for it almost like sketch is literally synonymous with scummy golly gee wiz.

P-Edit: I'm not against it.
I'm just kind of starting to drink the kool-aid on espe potentially being too consistently ridiculous to be scum.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:10 am
by Cheetory6
Espe is probably the lowest risk counter wagon we could possibly have in this situation..? I guess that's a plus?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:11 am
by hitogoroshi
VC 94 (Major Day 1, VC 56)


(6)
ChannelDelibird:
Titus, Formerfish, Bulbazak, TellTaleHeart, ActionDan, Espeonage
(Untrod Tripod, vezokpiraka)
[L-4]
(5)
mastin2:
Gammagooey, ChannelDelibird, Cheetory6, Untrod Tripod, vezokpiraka
(1)
ActionDan:
DeasVail
(singersigner)

(1)
singersigner:
mastin2
(1)
Gammagooey:
Oversoul
(1)
Titus:
singersigner
(1)
Espeonage:
Shadoweh
(0)
Aronis:
(Shadoweh)


(2)
Not Voting:
GuyinFreezer, Aronis
(Cheetory6)


With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)


Bulbazak is V/LA until April 27th. GuyInFreezer is V/LA until April 27th.

Less than five hours until deadline.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:11 am
by fferyllt
Another espe scum game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

similar posting rate 100+ in a month. not as much time developing cases as in the scum game above, but the multiple potshots are there.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am
by ChannelDelibird
I can make an espe vote happen if we're going for it

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am
by Cheetory6
I'm lurking links right now.
Thoughts on Espe potentially trying harder in these games because team mafia?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:13 am
by fferyllt
Fair warning. If the two current leading wagons don't fucking dissipate I'm going to start posting haiku.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:14 am
by fferyllt
Cheetory6 wrote:I'm lurking links right now.
Thoughts on Espe potentially trying harder in these games because team mafia?


I think it's reasonable to assume. But, his tryharding is pretty closely tied to his wagons iirc.

Do you feel like he gives much of a fuck who gets lynched if it's not him?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:15 am
by Cheetory6
HNNN.
HAIKUS.
VOTE: ESPEONAGE
HNNNNN.
For real though, this basically means it's either CDB or espe at this point.

P-Edit: I would need to glance back through his ISO because I have not been keeping tabs on him lately, at least not on stuff like that.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:17 am
by ChannelDelibird
VOTE: Espeonage

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:18 am
by Aronis
VOTE: espeonage

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:20 am
by Cheetory6
Holy shit singer why are you suddenly so quiet i will fight you D2 if I'm still alive.
With my brainfists.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:21 am
by ActionDan
VOTE: Espeonage

Ching chong bring it on.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:21 am
by Cheetory6
ffery, one last question, did you just pull random Espegames/ones that describe these comparisons best or just his 5-6 most recent ones?

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:22 am
by Cheetory6
Eh, you might want to look at this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6786306
I don't really know if it really matches the kind of engagement that you're expecting from townEsp.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:28 am
by fferyllt
hey! an active espe-towngame!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

his high post count was due to his plan, and role. he was doing all sorts of cryptic crumbing. Nacho thinks that might be something he doesn't do as scum. And I have a bit of experiential meta to bear that out.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5440946

he was almost lynched on day 1 of this game and fakeclaimed voyeur. No crumbing prior to the claim.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:30 am
by mastin2
ChannelDelibird wrote:3AM or not, I think it's a massive, massive copout to check out of here without actively reacting to the largest wagon's massive series of posts.
I pretty much did already. I'm not too terribly fond of your wagon, but there's the conflict in that most of my townreads are on it whereas I want to avoid it.

Soooooooooooooooooo...basically, my thought boiled down is, I'm not fond of it so I wouldn't join it, but I'm not going to fight against it.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:31 am
by fferyllt
Cheetory6 wrote:Eh, you might want to look at this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6786306
I don't really know if it really matches the kind of engagement that you're expecting from townEsp.


I think this one shows some of the same behaviors I found in the town game I just posted - effort associated with a compelling role.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:32 am
by Cheetory6
I can get behind VT Espe being unlikely to be engaged like this.

@Singer
, is the only reason you have for Espwagon being bad that Shadow is on it/was on it? Because bussing is a thing and I'm increasingly being irked by you sitting off of viable wagons on principle or something when we're this close to getting a no lynch at this point.
You should pick a viable side and vote on it. You sitting off at the side is bothering me.

P-Edit: And I want to kill mastin again. Resisting but man the urge is there.