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Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:07 am**

Tbh scum is gonna claim VT

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:09 am**

They can't afford to claim anything else at this point

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:33 am**

In post 3949, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
MOD – I’ll be V/LA from today at 5pm EDT until Monday morning for normal weekend duties.

In post 3948, Titus wrote:Sorry. Massclaim means all claim. I wouldn't mind Cy not claiming BC conftown but for him to b conftown means obvious role outage.
This post makes me itch …

Why?

By stating conftown don't need to claim in a massclaim?

If my clear didn't reveal his told, but I was a Sherriff instead Cy shouldn't claim. My role necessarily outed his.

Interesting tactic Magna...

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:40 am**

In post 3952, Titus wrote:Why?

By stating conftown don't need to claim in a massclaim?

If my clear didn't reveal his told, but I was a Sherriff instead Cy shouldn't claim. My role necessarily outed his.

Interesting tactic Magna...

Because it is a pointless post. You've already claimed him to be a VT in thread. Cy confirmed it. There is no point to even bringing up any need for him to participate in a mass claim because he's already claimed.

The only people who need to claim are Egg, zakk and Nahdia.

Yet you made a point about Confirmed Town not participating in a Mass Claim as if was of significance. It makes me question why Town Titus would bother posting that at all. Your response here is to babble about a Hypothetical that is irrelevant to the game-state.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:44 am**

But she already, more or less, proved that she was her claimed role. There's no point (unless we're scum together, which we're not lmao) that she'd confirm me as VT if she was scum.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:05 am**

An announcement: Nahdia is confirmed to be aligned with the Town!

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:06 am**

Great. So Nahdia is IC, Cy is town. I am town. That's three lock town.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:06 am**

do i still have to claim

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:07 am**

Egg and Zakk are up to claim.

Definitely not Nahdia.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:29 am**

In post 3925, Nahdia wrote:it's ok though. i will never be lynched this game. you can just accept you're wrong and we can be done with it.

i like this post now, i thought it was cheeky scum before

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... cent_Child

i have seen a tree stump variation in a game before but not an innocent child.
clearly the mod is using a number of less-common roles. I like it.

nahdia i kinda wish you would have waited until you were about to be wagoned so we would have seen more reactions to you/your wagon but hey this works too for PoE purposes

sooo now it's basically 3 of pmatt, liger/replacement, egg, and magna. so 75% chance of getting it right. and the easiest one to lynch is probably wrong based on the fact that scum could win today if we lynch wrong.

with 8 alive

townie
townie
townie
townie
townie
scum
scum
scum

lynch townie
scum kill townie

yea then it's 3-3

we need to lynch correctly today. i think we have a very good shot of it.

i also only trust opinions from outside those 4

this could not be going better honestly given the shitshow so far

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:30 am**

also, i'm a VT

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:31 am**

i mean i wanted to delay as much as possible but i figured at this point i would just get yelled at for not claiming.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:32 am**

Meh, I don't think you're scum zakk but not willing to write you off as obvtown.

I like pm Magna by VCs.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:03 am**

i'm obvtown to me <3

just like mildly dangerous mafia

i will probably die tonight btw

my usefulness has run its course

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:19 am**

In post 3955, SirCakez wrote:
An announcement: Nahdia is confirmed to be aligned with the Town!

WTF TYPE ROLE CAN DO THAT????

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:20 am**

bitter, cy?

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:22 am**

I am never bitter! I am sweet! Like honey! Some even call me CyTheHoneyGuy!

But lmao I forgot Innocent Child was a thing xDD

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:33 am**

after thinking about it a while, in order of preference i would like:

pmatt
liger
magna
egg

unless i'm wrong about egg, this order is an auto win

IMPORTANT

i'm taking into consideration that magna pushed the lynch on shaziro yesterday
that is in town's best interests, as well, yes, but it could just as well be seen in scum's best interests

magna pushed so hard on it and sounded so convincing, that it showed me what he can do when scumhunting

AND, i'm taking into account that, whether scum- or town-magna, that could NOT have been confbias because scum wouldn't know who the SK is therefore his scumhunting was real

ALSO the fact that the SK doesn't appear to have been blocked any of the nights

TBG kill N1
copper N2
Ircher N3
lynched D4

means that the scum were still hunting for the SK and DID NOT know for a fact who it was (unless they have a role cop or something which could be the case)

so as scum OF COURSE magna would try to get the lynch on shaziro if he thought he was even remotely likely to be SK

which then of course makes me think:
why haven't we seen anything that strong yet from magna, until it's on the one non-townie that it makes a lot of sense to try to power-lynch during daytime, so you don't have to waste a kill on them at night OR risk being killed by them at night?

and then i think:
but if town-magna was that good at pushing cases, why wouldn't scum have killed him so far? I mean look at his title. And read this (yes i looked it up, and Magna was helpful enough to provide me with statistics... albeit from 5 years ago...): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2869303

so yea maybe magna is scum here

still would rather lynch projectmatt and liger. haha

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:21 pm**

Foundation error: how are you supposing which kill is which?

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:37 pm**

Based on claims + common sense. See my past posts esp after shaziros vig claim and after D2 began

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:05 pm**

Walk me through it calmly please.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:35 pm**

Sorry did have much time at that moment

I'll dig em up

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:35 pm**

Didnt*

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:37 pm**

In post 2290, zakk wrote:well there are three kills, which either means

2 scum teams 1 vig
2 scum teams 1 sk
1 scum team 1 sk 1 vig

i think it's unlikely anyone who was scum or SK would want to take out KTS, especially an SK. they would want him alive to draw aggro

so eliminating the 2 scum teams 1 sk option, we have:

2 scum teams 1 vig
1 scum team 1 sk 1 vig

however, since i think that TBG was seen as someone who was a wagon that existed pretty much all day, but wasn't able to be pushed through, it's possible that either an SK, "rival" scum, or a vig would want to off him, thinking he was scum, and KTS seems like a vig shot for daaammmnnnn sure

so NK analysis leaves us with:

vigilante KTS
scum/sk TBG
scum/sk ETL

i'm happy with this.

so now we need to look for multi-scum dynamics.

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:43 pm**

In post 2874, zakk wrote:updated reads:

town reads
{
Egg
,
projectmatt
ConvergentConclusion
}
{
MagnaofIllusion
,
Aneninen
,
Expedience
alban
}
{
Liger_zero
I Am Innocent
,
Ircher
}

middle reads
{
drmyshottyizsik
,
cytheflyguy*
}
{
Nosferatu**
} need to read up... he's been prodded twice too
{
Nahdia
Desmond_13
} = lurksack af? quite active elsewhere/site chat. however, no prods... ?
{
copper223
}

scum reads:
{
Kop
SethYazura
,
Shaziro
heuristically_alone
}
{
Lowell*
}
{
Titus
}

dead:

Persivul
Robert2424
- Lynched Day 1 -
Town Neighbor

Killthestory
- Killed Night 1 -
Vanilla Townie

EspeciallyTheLies
- Killed Night 1 -
Vanilla Townie

TehBrawlGuy
- Killed Night 1 -
Vanilla Townie

lmfao look at this utter shit

it's no wonder i'm still alive

i'm doing scum's job FOR them

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