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In post 3947, Hectic wrote:Krazy got mad at people and was harsh as town is the gist of what I remember. There were a few battles in the thread. I can't really remember specifics and at who. Who was it at, Krazy?

Insomnia and Pink Ball I think were the biggest two fights but there might have been another I'm forgetting

also Datisi was *in* that game so that's kinda a weird question lol

In post 3928, Krazy wrote:also Datisi was *in* that game so that's kinda a weird question lol

did i or did i not call it...

if you think i was actually reading that game, i have news for you

I know you've mentioned you didn't read the game, it's just still really jarring to me that you'd straight not read like... 20 page sections of the game

like you've told me but it's hard for me to accept that

not that I would have wanted you to read that part of the game anyway honestly, the argument with pink ball was exceedingly dumb at some point but it kept going for no reason

tanner who WOULD you vote on at this point, other than me?

Tweetie why do you 100% trust Hectic? Is there something he's done this game that you think Scum-Hectic is incapable of?

ehhh.

in my heart i don't believe hectic is scum, but i'd be lying if i said the recent points don't make me doubt. plus hectic dying would "at least" remove the pooky/hectic tunnel thing. maaaybe a similar argument for pooky but i still have a feeling they're both town.

nacho is a vote i would be "fine" with based on nothing but prism's read.

any other vote would be scrambling-for-majority.

I told myself I'd go to sleep by 4am and it's about that time. I will be awake in the morning to vote wherever needs be.

tanner where do you want my placeholder vote to be?

In post 3957, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:tanner where do you want my placeholder vote to be?

its now 4 minutes past when I was going to sleep ://

i am really really tired can you just tell me where to vote? I'll come back in the morning and change if we have to scramble for majority

vote for whoever you think is scum, i don't want to be a proxy, k thx

HURT: hectic

ill be back in the morning to move if nobody wants this. we need an elim.

In post 3860, Tanner wrote:@nacho, what was your procedure upon replacing in / how much of the game did you read prior to making 3795?

I replaced in. I read the last couple of pages and noticed people talking about the likelihood of Pookie bussing. I read the beginning of the game + setup rules, then read about the first 25 pages, then skimmed up until Puppy ate buttercups.

In post 3857, Morning Tweet wrote:But then again, maybe she didnt quite realize the implications.

If there's a player who would pass on the coin flip, it would be lav. If there was a player who wouldn't understand the implications, it would be lav.

Most importantly, the only player who skips the N2 kill is Lav.

In post 3887, Krazy wrote:Nacho can you expand on your reasoning? I feel like Lavender is pretty likely town given end of day 2, and I can point to several metrics that I think should make it not too hard to find town in my slot (NKA, VCA, meta...)

I've expanded on my lavender thoughts - what do you think of the case that I provided?

I don't really think that you are scum but the town case on others is stronger than the town case on you.

In post 3917, Krazy wrote:The catboi nightkill does not come from a last scum under fire:

It doesn't come from scum in a good position either.

It's a bad kill.

In post 3917, Krazy wrote:Hectic also is right here on some of the reasons I do not no kill:

Lavender is the only person who no kills in this situation. There is not another player who no kills here.

In post 3967, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 3917, Krazy wrote:Hectic also is right here on some of the reasons I do not no kill:

Lavender is the only person who no kills in this situation. There is not another player who no kills here.

why are you so sure about this?

The rest of the game is hyper-engaged, playing very strong scum games if scum. No killing offers no real benefit to scum playing this far behind; much better to shut more people up.

I don't think we have anyone here who would intentionally no kill, thus we're looking at someone making an accident - Lavender is the only one I can see missing deadline on a night action due to flgihtiness/lack of engagement.

my issue with that is that depending on who scum is, there coooouuuld be benefit in no killing (because look at this town, there's what 7 hours to deadline and the biggest wagons are at F-3) if someone missed the "night 4 is skipped" sentence and like

idk i get bed vibes you entering the game hardpushing lavender like that

BAD*** vibes

In post 3970, Tanner wrote:my issue with that is that depending on who scum is, there coooouuuld be benefit in no killing (because look at this town, there's what 7 hours to deadline and the biggest wagons are at F-3) if someone missed the "night 4 is skipped" sentence and like

idk i get bed vibes you entering the game hardpushing lavender like that

Yeah i think why I dismissed the nokill earlier was at least partly because the no-kill could make sense if scum misread the setup. I think it might have been slightly +EV? There'd be an extra townie around when people get confirmed or something and it worked cause mylo, or something

Still, the idea of no-killing would have had to come to them. I suspect at least some of us here would've never thought to do that, i certainly wouldn't have.

Nachomamma8 wrote:The rest of the game is hyper-engaged, playing very strong scum games if scum. No killing offers no real benefit to scum playing this far behind; much better to shut more people up.

I don't think we have anyone here who would intentionally no kill, thus we're looking at someone making an accident - Lavender is the only one I can see missing deadline on a night action due to flgihtiness/lack of engagement.

Is there anyone here who was hyper-aware of trying to max out EV? Besides catboi.

(that's not a question posed to you specifically that's at myself or the general audience)

I don't.. think so. Not that someone like that would have to show off their EV awareness in the thread, but still.

Nyeh! I'm willing to give Lav a shot, but I think based off just her posts alone, I read her as town because (as i mentioned) she's actually posted more than she did in her scum game. and ofc hectic (and someone else i think?) actually did the meta on it. it's actually quite the improvement if she's scum!

Who are you gunning for after Lav, Nacho?

I realise I'm doing the exact same thing with Pooky as I did with Launchy, where I scumread him based on interactions, but lost confidence/motivation over time due to no one else agreeing with me. At least, this time, I'm continuing to vote there. If Pooky flips scum, I'll convince myself to stop being so influenced by the collective and be more confident with my reads.