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From my POV if you’re town siding you’re the equivalent of 3 players claiming a guilty on April.

So you always lynch the guilty here. If the guilty person ends up town then you look at the cop claim.

(Looks like I'm caught up, so bedtime now.)

@Math, mastina is utterly convinced April is scum. My VCA as April as scum. I disagree with her setup spec point but have my own independent read. mastina has her experience with April that I don't share (namely April has pulled this motion detector before). Yet, mastina is right about April pushing the confirmed not Army slots, looking for a chink in the armor.

If this causes you to unvote April, so be it. I am not one to overstate a case.

In post 3952, Titus wrote:@Math, mastina is utterly convinced April is scum. My VCA as April as scum. I disagree with her setup spec point but have my own independent read. mastina has her experience with April that I don't share (namely April has pulled this motion detector before). Yet, mastina is right about April pushing the confirmed not Army slots, looking for a chink in the armor.

If this causes you to unvote April, so be it. I am not one to overstate a case.

I really wish Mastina didn’t go to bed.

Mastina said she believes April is scum due to information she has about the setup.

You have the same information.

You and Mastina are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

“Trust us we have all this information.”

I sheep you even though my gut says you’re wrong.

“Wait don’t trust me like that”.

Fuck that.

god you guys post a lot

mastina
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Titus
NorwegianboyEE
Chemist1422

shellyc
Bell
April Ludgate
MathBlade
Morning Mage
Tayl0r Swift
jjh927
Pickaxe Pete
PlusJOYED
DiamondSentinel
Something_Smart
DrDolittle
TheGoldenParadox

so if i read correctly there's 4 scum in the bottom list?

I don't want to have to mediate the shitstorm that occurred overnight, so I won't. But Math, please, for the love of god, stop being... just all of that.

So much of your arguments are just lacking in any sort of nuance and it's polluting the game.

VOTE: April

from a quick open of their ISO and ctrl+F of gamma i am now convinced

In post 2060, April Ludgate wrote:

In post 2057, Menalque wrote:

In post 2054, April Ludgate wrote:Gamma’s town

Only one way to find out!

I don’t need to find out, I have a soul read.

In post 2485, April Ludgate wrote:

In post 2479, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 2455, Morning Mage wrote:also, maybe April Ludgate as a hard Gamma defender. although im not sold on that.

boon/april has in the past very much hard defended his buddies.

This is true.

I’ve also been on record unable to read Gamma correctly well over he past year despite my old soul reads

In post 2580, April Ludgate wrote:Well, I’m town who just unfortunately defended the person who’s been yelling at me for “incorrectly reading them”.

This is just another incorrect read for me on Gamma.

this

In post 3954, Chemist1422 wrote:god you guys post a lot

mastina
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Titus
NorwegianboyEE
Chemist1422

shellyc
Bell
April Ludgate
MathBlade
Morning Mage
Tayl0r Swift
jjh927
Pickaxe Pete
PlusJOYED
DiamondSentinel
Something_Smart
DrDolittle
TheGoldenParadox

so if i read correctly there's 4 scum in the bottom list?

Yes, but Plus should be at the top. We don't know if you're town but fypov, yes.

In post 3955, DiamondSentinel wrote:I don't want to have to mediate the shitstorm that occurred overnight, so I won't. But Math, please, for the love of god, stop being... just all of that.

So much of your arguments are just lacking in any sort of nuance and it's

really

polluting the game.

Oh I am sorry.

Am I supposed to package all my arguments in a pretty little bow when you have literal non town running the game?

That’s what scum!Me does.

I don’t give a shit about how it looks. I care about reality. What am I supposed to stop being? Honest that I think we’re gonna lose? That I don’t accept BS when everyone else is taking it hook line and sinker.

I am allowed to be angry. These are viable emotions.

In post 3958, Titus wrote:

In post 3954, Chemist1422 wrote:god you guys post a lot

mastina
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Titus
NorwegianboyEE
Chemist1422

shellyc
Bell
April Ludgate
MathBlade
Morning Mage
Tayl0r Swift
jjh927
Pickaxe Pete
PlusJOYED
DiamondSentinel
Something_Smart
DrDolittle
TheGoldenParadox

so if i read correctly there's 4 scum in the bottom list?

Yes, but Plus should be at the top. We don't know if you're town but fypov, yes.

that's not ordered within tiers i was just double checking the mech stuff

i think plus is probably town here

In post 3960, Chemist1422 wrote:

In post 3958, Titus wrote:

In post 3954, Chemist1422 wrote:god you guys post a lot

mastina
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Titus
NorwegianboyEE
Chemist1422

shellyc
Bell
April Ludgate
MathBlade
Morning Mage
Tayl0r Swift
jjh927
Pickaxe Pete
PlusJOYED
DiamondSentinel
Something_Smart
DrDolittle
TheGoldenParadox

so if i read correctly there's 4 scum in the bottom list?

Yes, but Plus should be at the top. We don't know if you're town but fypov, yes.

that's not ordered within tiers i was just double checking the mech stuff

i think plus is probably town here

Plus is town. No probably about it.

In post 3959, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3955, DiamondSentinel wrote:I don't want to have to mediate the shitstorm that occurred overnight, so I won't. But Math, please, for the love of god, stop being... just all of that.

So much of your arguments are just lacking in any sort of nuance and it's

really

polluting the game.

Oh I am sorry.

Am I supposed to package all my arguments in a pretty little bow when you have literal non town running the game?

That’s what scum!Me does.

I don’t give a shit about how it looks. I care about reality. What am I supposed to stop being? Honest that I think we’re gonna lose? That I don’t accept BS when everyone else is taking it hook line and sinker.

I am allowed to be angry. These are viable emotions.

You're supposed to act civilly because what you're doing now is accomplishing nothing.

In post 3962, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 3959, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3955, DiamondSentinel wrote:I don't want to have to mediate the shitstorm that occurred overnight, so I won't. But Math, please, for the love of god, stop being... just all of that.

So much of your arguments are just lacking in any sort of nuance and it's

really

polluting the game.

Oh I am sorry.

Am I supposed to package all my arguments in a pretty little bow when you have literal non town running the game?

That’s what scum!Me does.

I don’t give a shit about how it looks. I care about reality. What am I supposed to stop being? Honest that I think we’re gonna lose? That I don’t accept BS when everyone else is taking it hook line and sinker.

I am allowed to be angry. These are viable emotions.

You're supposed to act civilly because what you're doing now is accomplishing nothing.

This is civil.

This is angry but civil.

I am not name calling.

I am accurately pointing out they are 3P.

I am accurately pointing out their claims and I don’t believe them.

There is nothing breaking rules here and is civil.

You going on tirades is not civil because it detracts from the ability of others to do anything and keep up. There were 7 pages when I woke up this morning full of you going back and forth with everyone else in the game. That's not cool.

In post 3964, DiamondSentinel wrote:You going on tirades is not civil because it detracts from the ability of others to do anything and keep up. There were 7 pages when I woke up this morning full of you going back and forth with everyone else in the game. That's not cool.

Oh no. Math can’t play because he disagrees with Queens Titus and Mastina.

Fuck it I have work.

This is literally the only time I have until late tonight.

Excuse me for trying to make it worth it.

Because now Titus and Mastina will have around 12 hours of unfettered access except during my 30 minute lunch break.

In post 3965, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3964, DiamondSentinel wrote:You going on tirades is not civil because it detracts from the ability of others to do anything and keep up. There were 7 pages when I woke up this morning full of you going back and forth with everyone else in the game. That's not cool.

Oh no. Math can’t play because he disagrees with Queens Titus and Mastina.

Fuck it I have work.

This is literally the only time I have until late tonight.

Excuse me for trying to make it worth it.

Because now Titus and Mastina will have around 12 hours of unfettered access except during my 30 minute lunch break.

You can still give scumreads and worth with us to hunt the Army even if people disagree with you.

There's a bell wagon you could hop on. You could start another wagon on an Army read. You can work with the gamestate.

The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

Screw it. I’ll play Math’s game because it’s a game I’ve been to interested in playing myself.

Both third parties, I want your wincons verbatim. I want to know where precisely y’all stand.

So no. Rescind the guilty claim explicitly or we execute April and use it as a barometer check i really gotta showed now

In post 3967, MathBlade wrote:The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

mastina and I disagree on the strength of the setup spec. I have an independent SR of April. It's not a guilty.

(Strictly speaking, not necessarily verbatim if that’d be ruled against the rules, but I want it clearly stated with no tricksy wording)

In post 3968, DiamondSentinel wrote:Screw it. I’ll play Math’s game because it’s a game I’ve been to interested in playing myself.

Both third parties, I want your wincons verbatim. I want to know where precisely y’all stand.

As you have heard from Superbowl and A50, you're not getting that. Their claim is they win with town and only then. We know that has a very high likelihood of being true (greater than 99%).

They know our wincon and know it's antitown to divulge.

In post 3970, Titus wrote:

In post 3967, MathBlade wrote:The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

mastina and I disagree on the strength of the setup spec. I have an independent SR of April. It's not a guilty.

Mastina is claiming a guilty then.

You’re a package deal with Mastina per your claim.

Unless she rescinds her claim it’s a guilty.

She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

In post 3973, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3970, Titus wrote:

In post 3967, MathBlade wrote:The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

mastina and I disagree on the strength of the setup spec. I have an independent SR of April. It's not a guilty.

Mastina is claiming a guilty then.

You’re a package deal with Mastina per your claim.

Unless she rescinds her claim it’s a guilty.

She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

That's a read, based off info.

A guilty is different.