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Post Post #3950 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:52 pm

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In post 3943, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Murdercat's a bad vote based on the Flea interactions.
Then if Pooky was roleblocked (with a roleblock being a hard-clear given only one scum left), who is the last scum?

I know it's not me, I don't think anyone who was on both of the D2/D3 scum wagons is scum (which clears MathBlade, Reck, and ManWithNoName), I don't think it's WindowsXP due to a combination of who WindowsXP has pushed and WindowsXP claiming to be sabotaged, I don't think it's you due to the whole FleaVHaschel, which literally leaves:
{SirCakez, Battle Mage, Pooky, MURDERCAT}.

Battle Mage has pretty damn good interactions in regards to scum, in particular, being a heavy pusher of Blitzo the entire game. He's almost certainly not scum here from what he's given.

If Pooky was roleblocked, then Pooky would be hard-cleared as town. (Granted, this is an 'if', we do need to know OutWorldER's target.)

That doesn't leave many options, does it?

If Pooky wasn't roleblocked, sure, Pooky has a pretty damn high chance of being scum.
But if Pooky was roleblocked, then literally the only two possible scum would be SirCakez or MURDERCAT, pretty much.
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Post Post #3951 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:57 pm

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In post 3950, mastina wrote:
In post 3943, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Murdercat's a bad vote based on the Flea interactions.
Then if Pooky was roleblocked (with a roleblock being a hard-clear given only one scum left), who is the last scum?

I know it's not me, I don't think anyone who was on both of the D2/D3 scum wagons is scum (which clears MathBlade, Reck, and ManWithNoName), I don't think it's WindowsXP due to a combination of who WindowsXP has pushed and WindowsXP claiming to be sabotaged, I don't think it's you due to the whole FleaVHaschel, which literally leaves:
{SirCakez, Battle Mage, Pooky, MURDERCAT}.

Battle Mage has pretty damn good interactions in regards to scum, in particular, being a heavy pusher of Blitzo the entire game. He's almost certainly not scum here from what he's given.

If Pooky was roleblocked, then Pooky would be hard-cleared as town. (Granted, this is an 'if', we do need to know OutWorldER's target.)

That doesn't leave many options, does it?

If Pooky wasn't roleblocked, sure, Pooky has a pretty damn high chance of being scum.
But if Pooky was roleblocked, then literally the only two possible scum would be SirCakez or MURDERCAT, pretty much.
I would pick Pooky as scum there. Based on Pooky and/or MWNN suggesting Murdercat scum as scum in not last nights but the night before PT. Getting anyone to summarize the game or give a read was a pita.
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Post Post #3952 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:03 pm

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Actually.
VOTE: SirCakez
I did a control-f search of murdercat's iso for flea and SirCakez's iso for Flea.

Cakez looks like distancing but not bussing until Haschel's case pointed out Flea's "scumslips"--a point where scum would be likely to agree to it being a scumslip and bus.
I have a theory to check on SirCakez's iso tho but I legit think he may be the last one right now.
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Post Post #3953 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:04 pm

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In post 3931, WindowsXP wrote: we can win this game with tasks
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Post Post #3954 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:06 pm

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In post 3902, OutWorldER wrote:I'm going to go to Cafeteria because Reck's there I think (since he has Akarin's task and I remember Akarin stating they had a two day task in Cafeteria.)

Anyone else that isn't Pooky/Mastina that is able to follow me can do so.

unless there's anything else to take care of I'm pretty ready to end the day.
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Post Post #3955 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:07 pm

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In post 3953, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3931, WindowsXP wrote: we can win this game with tasks
Let us who haven’t played catch up. Yes we can win this game by tasks. We may no elim. That doesn’t mean you through out day play with the no elim either
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Post Post #3956 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:09 pm

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Okay nevermind on that, theory did not pan out--I control-f'd SirCakez on Bell and Blitzo. Bell could plausibly be SirCakez as scum distancing; Flea was definitely plausible as scum distancing (thus the vote); Blitzo was plausible (albeit slightly less likely) as scum distancing; SirCakez distancing from
all three scumbuddies
and often hopping off of one flipped scum onto a different flipped scum?

Probably not.

VOTE: Pooky
Back to here unless Pooky was roleblocked I guess.
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Post Post #3957 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:09 pm

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In post 3955, MathBlade wrote:Yes we can win this game by tasks.
VOTE: no elim
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Post Post #3958 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:09 pm

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In post 3955, MathBlade wrote:Yes we can win this game by tasks.
VOTE: no elim
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Post Post #3959 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:11 pm

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In post 3931, WindowsXP wrote:we should hardclaim everything and move as a unit btw.
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Post Post #3960 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:14 pm

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In post 3952, mastina wrote:Actually.
VOTE: SirCakez
I did a control-f search of murdercat's iso for flea and SirCakez's iso for Flea.

Cakez looks like distancing but not bussing until Haschel's case pointed out Flea's "scumslips"--a point where scum would be likely to agree to it being a scumslip and bus.
I have a theory to check on SirCakez's iso tho but I legit think he may be the last one right now.
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Post Post #3961 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:15 pm

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At this stage I am 100% done with tasks and can accompany anybody who still has a task. Did we ever learn who grabbed Gamma's?

Last night I was in Upper Engine and nobody else was there.
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Post Post #3962 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:16 pm

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EBWOP: Battle Mage, is that second quote meant to say "I am quoting this because I agree" or "I think this is a shitty (e.g. number two) post"?
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Post Post #3963 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:16 pm

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In post 3961, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Did we ever learn who grabbed Gamma's?
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Post Post #3964 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:17 pm

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In post 3957, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3955, MathBlade wrote:Yes we can win this game by tasks.
VOTE: no elim
We can, but I honestly don't want to.

I would genuinely rather eat the mislynch and be voted out, so that we'd win from ejecting the final scum, rather than win on tasks.

Mafia is more fun as a logic puzzle--and we've gotten 3/4 pieces of the puzzle with plenty of info to find the final piece of it.

I'm all for using mechanics to gain an advantage and if we could easily win on tasks when we couldn't so easily win from ejecting the last scum, I'd be down for it. Because with 2-3 scum alive, the task wincon is by far the easier and more likely one to achieve.

But with only 1 scum left alive, I'd just rather eliminate them and be done with it. Tasks could take us 3-4 days to complete, if they complete at all.

An eject takes one.

But like I said, I do admit: I actually watch a boatload of Among Us streamers and their mindset influences mine. (Universally--literally none of them want to win on tasks; literally all of them want to win off of ejecting the impostor. They see task wins as boring, and I agree with that mindset wholeheartedly.)

I'd happily eject myself for the town to have a shot at winning via the day, rather than wait with literally nothing to do (since I completed my tasks already) for the slow path to victory over multiple days, resolving after some night.
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Post Post #3965 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:18 pm

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In post 3909, DkKoba wrote:I'll do this
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Post Post #3966 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:18 pm

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In post 3962, Haschel Cedricson wrote:"I think this is a shitty (e.g. number two) post"?
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Post Post #3967 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:18 pm

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Mastina I can't believe you still think I'm scum lol

anyway I'm done with all my tasks.
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Post Post #3968 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:23 pm

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For the record, I did just iso Pooky, who I believe is pretty strongly anti-bussing.

Pooky said almost nothing about Flea the entire game, until after Haschel's case (which, again, to scum who know Flea is scum, would look more damning).
Pooky said almost nothing about Blitzo the entire game, but the little he did was nothing remarkable.
Pooky said very little about Bell the entire game, but locktowned him and asked what the case on him was and overall, was treating Bell far differently this game from Pooky v FL.

So Pooky does look like scum, honestly.
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Post Post #3969 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:30 pm

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In post 3964, mastina wrote:
In post 3957, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 3955, MathBlade wrote:Yes we can win this game by tasks.
VOTE: no elim
We can
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Post Post #3970 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:33 pm

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Mastina you look lovely tonight

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Post Post #3971 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:42 pm

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In post 3970, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mastina you look lovely tonight
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Flea should be proof enough that, even though I do have the tendency to not want to eliminate people that I'm vibing with and enjoying, I am fully willing to do so push come to shove. :P

Which is to say, while I appreciate the flattery and you are a joy to have in games, I still think you're the final scum. :P
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Post Post #3972 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:50 pm

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Mastina why do you think I should've known Bell would be scum in this game because of FL v Pooky?
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Post Post #3973 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:55 pm

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In post 3972, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mastina why do you think I should've known Bell would be scum in this game because of FL v Pooky?
Because pichu your soulmason told you Bell was scum there (and did so with some pretty damn hard evidence), Bell in this game was incredibly similar to that game (yes I did compare his iso there and here to confirm this fact; they're not literally identical but are very very very similar), and Bell flipped scum in that game literally 12 hours before he flipped scum in this game.
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Post Post #3974 (ISO) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:59 pm

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ok but conversely if I had actually known Bell was scum in this game, I probably wouldn't buy his AtE act in the FL v Pooky right?
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