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Post Post #3950 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 3946, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3937, Venus Fly Trap wrote:- uh flippng iverson literally means i win automatically in the universe you're proposing, not sure what the bolded means
I mean it was never as easy as pushing Iverson and winning immediately -- you still would have had to put the effort in to be convincing and keep, say, Kismet and someone elses' votes on for long enough for the scumteam to naturally join since DC/Mom were both absent

It had to be believable all the way through

I think you could have done that though yes and then won. I don't know why exactly that didnt happen, maybe you weren't confident enough in Kismet in this case

I know theres something that is making scum impossible to see. It might be notsci playing a fantastic game or it might be you making this decision and getting "cleared"

It's so clearly possible to me but it only is to me, isn't it, since im the only one who knows im not viable with infinity. Really sucks
i'm p sure that if i get kismet to vote with me it happens ultimately ... that's what happened like literally every other phase this game ...

mt. why exactly is infinity town? i think i asked this a couple fo times and you didn't answer this really

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Post Post #3951 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:26 pm

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Why did scum!prism hammer bulge?
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Post Post #3952 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 3937, Venus Fly Trap wrote:- i distinctly remember talking bork *out* of scumreading iverson, not sure why you're discounting that. the quote in the spoiler is bork deciding prism is town and cementing that read *because* i wasn't interested in it
Ye i understand the point ur making

Ughhh the only thing I can think of is that Prism already made 3083 - 3085 which you might have been worried would change minds

I'm gonna explode

I don't see how I can beat this

pedit: Infinity time then

Everyone started thinking Infinity was scum for pushing DC over Mom on the previous day super hard, even going so far as to suggest Bork as a partner. I already off the bat don't see why infinity chooses that route (and yes it came off as a very question move) rather than bus Mom and likely win in the future given all of Venus/Cakes/notsci/infinity had decent things going for them.

The whole momentum on infinity today is completely over nothing if DC is scum

I thought infinity came across as town while i was reading the game i would have to look over it again god damn it But infinity isn't scum with DC so i'm really not worried there. Okay couldnt help it and read back, i dont think Infinity defends Mom and Leafeon for sure

DC's reads (like 1174) and approach to NM makes so much more sense

Between how infinity and DC have engaged with my catchup i struggle to believe it's infinity over DC as well

I so strongly think it's DC and not infinity
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Post Post #3953 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:29 pm

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In post 3951, Infinity 324 wrote:Why did scum!prism hammer bulge?
i dont' know. that's one of the things that was holding me back from commiting to prism-scum earlier, idk why he he takes the hammer when notmafia could have.
maybe he was worried about ydrasse removing her lolvote and just wanted to cement the wagon while he could

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Post Post #3954 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:29 pm

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I DONT KNOW WHY YOU DONT JUST PUSH IVERSON

I have enough faith that there's some reason I dont know because i couldnt possibly know

Like in death curse when Titus passed the scroll to LLD when she was almost certainly going to pass it to scum partner Noraa, it was a mistake and one that tripped people up for a long time

If it's you there is something i dont know but that something is just easier to buy than anything else especially considering people make mistakes all of the time compared to someone having both a stellar performance and one that tricks their longtime friends into 100%ing them as town

I can buy it and i find it possible aand that's why it's making me go crazy
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Post Post #3955 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:31 pm

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the points for Venus and against Infinity decrease drastically if Disaster is scum

If you see it this way it just seems like a possiblity to me

If I'm wrong i certainly suck at reading but also i certainly missed what cleared Venus
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Post Post #3956 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 3952, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 3937, Venus Fly Trap wrote:- i distinctly remember talking bork *out* of scumreading iverson, not sure why you're discounting that. the quote in the spoiler is bork deciding prism is town and cementing that read *because* i wasn't interested in it
Ye i understand the point ur making

Ughhh the only thing I can think of is that Prism already made 3083 - 3085 which you might have been worried would change minds

I'm gonna explode

I don't see how I can beat this

pedit: Infinity time then

Everyone started thinking Infinity was scum for pushing DC over Mom on the previous day super hard, even going so far as to suggest Bork as a partner. I already off the bat don't see why infinity chooses that route (and yes it came off as a very question move) rather than bus Mom and likely win in the future given all of Venus/Cakes/notsci/infinity had decent things going for them.

The whole momentum on infinity today is completely over nothing if DC is scum

I thought infinity came across as town while i was reading the game i would have to look over it again god damn it But infinity isn't scum with DC so i'm really not worried there. Okay couldnt help it and read back, i dont think Infinity defends Mom and Leafeon for sure

DC's reads (like 1174) and approach to NM makes so much more sense

Between how infinity and DC have engaged with my catchup i struggle to believe it's infinity over DC as well

I so strongly think it's DC and not infinity
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my. play. yesterday. doesn't. come. from. scum.

it's absurd to me that you don't see this and that i'm your preferred solve

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and your reasons for townreading infinity are ok ig
but this whole thing looks like a you/infinity solve to me >.>

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Post Post #3957 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:37 pm

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Tweet feels so genuine here
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Post Post #3958 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 3:38 pm

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it's unfortunate that i think she's scum tho >.>

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Post Post #3959 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:06 pm

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Post Post #3960 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 3916, Venus Fly Trap wrote:notsci if you're town i need you to un-disappear off the face of the planet

you're kinda in your scum-meta at this point i feel like
I probably wouldnt have spamposted like i was at daystart

i also said i was waiting for you (and ive been at work and just got home now)

but I feel like if you search MT's and infinity's slots in flipped scum ISOs they look absolutely awful
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Post Post #3961 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:09 pm

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What was a notsci/prism team doing on d3
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Post Post #3962 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:10 pm

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I was drowning in work
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Post Post #3963 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:15 pm

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I don't fucking know

Cakez if it had to be DC/VFT or tweet/notsci what do you think
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Post Post #3964 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:17 pm

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You asked, I just wanted to answer

I also think my interactions with peta on replace in read as T/S but I might be biased ;)
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Post Post #3965 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:20 pm

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Ok but why do you care about my read on you, if you think tweet is scum you should want me to SR you
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Post Post #3966 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:21 pm

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I want Cakez to look at the flipped associatives and have a convo with me
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Post Post #3967 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:30 pm

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At the end of the day it's easier to catch scum in earlier days when reviewing interactions with flipped players, particularly those who flipped scum. Cakez knows this is how I play. He's just so focused on everyone yelling he's not taking a second to try and see what I'm saying.
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Post Post #3968 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:32 pm

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Heya notsci

Aside i just want to say this is literally one of the hardest games i think i've ever played >.<

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Post Post #3969 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:33 pm

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Skitter please play my ISO game!
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Post Post #3970 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:34 pm

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One thing I think is interesting is both infinity and tweet slot were a priority quote in two of the flipped scum
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Post Post #3971 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 3960, notscience wrote:but I feel like if you search MT's and infinity's slots in flipped scum ISOs they look absolutely awful
This?
Can i take a raincheck til tomorrow irl? I have to wake up early for work and will be going to sleep shortly

But rhis is the solve i'm leaning towards
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Post Post #3972 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:35 pm

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Yes

I've got some plans tomorrow but I'll poke my head in a few times
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Post Post #3973 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:35 pm

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In post 3970, notscience wrote:One thing I think is interesting is both infinity and tweet slot were a priority quote in two of the flipped scum
What is a 'priority quote'?
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Post Post #3974 (ISO) » Wed May 19, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 3972, notscience wrote:Yes

I've got some plans tomorrow but I'll poke my head in a few times
K will take a look tom but it may not be till after work
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