In post 3943, Dwlee99 wrote:You were hypothesizing me scum in the pink chat I thought...
In post 3944, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay NVM your first thing there was saying you "feel better" about me there
Skitter
susses me a good bit at this point.
i don't remember you wanting dunn at all
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:32 am
by Taly
WHAT?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:32 am
by Taly
HAVE YOU READ ME AT ALL THIS GAME?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:33 am
by Taly
BRB rushing to computer
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:33 am
by petapan
In post 3949, skitter30 wrote:(also pointing out that it doesn't seem particularly likely that you're actually gonna get flipped here, so not sure what you're worrying about ...)
i think it's more up in the air than many believe and i am covering my bases in the event you get what you want
In post 3949, skitter30 wrote:(also pointing out that it doesn't seem particularly likely that you're actually gonna get flipped here, so not sure what you're worrying about ...)
i think it's more up in the air than many believe and i am covering my bases in the event you get what you want
In post 2556, Dwlee99 wrote:ulyana
Ydrasse
SirCakez
Infinity 324
Toogeloo
Dunnstral
Here's a list of people I'd be cool shooting each other today. I vaguely remember townreading the other people the last time I was actually thinking about the game, but I don't feel super confident in this poe.
In post 3070, Dwlee99 wrote:Can we put infinity and Dunnstral in the shootout please?
In post 3166, Dwlee99 wrote:Stop this shit fight and flip infinity/dunn please. Cakez is town for agreeing with me on both of these reads
In post 3174, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm gonna try a pooky trick: this day phase should end by page 130, preferably with Dunn and infinity being the ones shooting each other. If you disagree, stop doing so
not sure what you're point is, i've been calling you town for quite a long while
you voted Dwlee during the setup for the Russian roulette duel at one point? Tbf reading through 130+ pages in 4 days does not give me a good impression of how extensive "a long while" is time-wise tho
In post 3465, Gammagooey wrote:
SKITTER can you give me like a timeline/summary of who you were suspecting and how strongly through events 1-3? (also I might just call them days 1 and 2 later because that feels correct to me)
I still want this when you have time btw. I don't really understand your read progression on either of peta or infinity at the moment and going through some of your thoughts about them (and any other strong reads) from previous days would help me out a lot with that
this is my informal VC, i could assume how certain people will vote but don't want to without a hard verbal commitment
i would like it if people could out their vote if they're decided
if vote occurred right now i’d vote for infinity yea but I think this vote count thing kinda negative value even though i get the accountability aspect
Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.
would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so
I agree with leashing him in some form.... everything after the "who" part is where you lost me.
Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.
There are no power roles so there's no real reason to do this
I disagree. What if someone had a thought or question they wanted to get out before EoD? I mean, it's unrealistic to have everybody approve of when to end the day
But I've certainly seen many votes reach capacity before I was ready for EoD and they don't historically play out to my preference.
In post 1420, Dunnstral wrote:Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.
In post 1421, Dunnstral wrote:So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)
I hate this from Dunnstral
100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this
Dunn
presumes that scum-
Gamma
would want the chair and therefore could be informed?
In post 1420, Dunnstral wrote:Gamma had an opportunity to vote himself into the chair though.
In post 1421, Dunnstral wrote:So the theory that they are playing to get into the chair is probably incorrect regardless (though that doesn't necessarily make him town because the chair isn't necessarily or even likely to be good)
I hate this from Dunnstral
100 points for anyone who can figure out why I hate this
Dunn
presumes that scum-
Gamma
would want the chair and therefore could be informed?
I'm not presuming anything, I'm responding to the idea that scum gamma was trying to get into the chair. I'm pointing out that he had a chance to get into the chair if he wanted to.
Then your confusion with
Gamma
not getting flipped perplexes me even further. What even is your read of the slot and why were you interested in ending this event phase quickly?
In post 1472, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at but I never said any of that.
Then why was it painful to call attention to the vote counter? I'm trying to understand the benefit to a quicker elimination on
Gamma
was.
ulyana wrote:
In post 1470, Taly wrote:I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.
okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else
This is exactly my point.
You expect me to know your alignment to be town but that is unclear. Don't you think it's more productive for you to tell me your current POV of the game even if you're not confident in it?
Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.
would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so
I agree with leashing him in some form.... everything after the "who" part is where you lost me.
Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.
There are no power roles so there's no real reason to do this
I disagree. What if someone had a thought or question they wanted to get out before EoD? I mean, it's unrealistic to have everybody approve of when to end the day
But I've certainly seen many votes reach capacity before I was ready for EoD and they don't historically play out to my preference.
is a good person to chair imo but it's partially why he's been so absent. I don't think I'd get much from his flip. He feels LHF. Does someone have a meta-take?
In post 1965, Gamma Emerald wrote:Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse, Sircakez
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Petapan
Could do with a touching-up: Dunnstral, Dwlee, Ulyana
Remove them from the premises: Saber, Galron, Toogeloo
I think I’m sitting somewhere around here?
FYI I kinda felt like Saber’s response to my question about the progression on me felt a little sus
In post 2112, Saber wrote:Despite my qualms, the amount of effort and being top poster by a long shot is quite unlikely to come from a stagehand, though. Contestants dominate that statistic a lot. I may just dislike his erratic playstyle.
Do you find a benefit of the doubt with slots like
is reading this game beyond every two or third post that mentions him.
This isn't a slight at all, I just can't feel compelled to think he's town because he's returned to the exact same conversations as the previous game phases, and has added no additional content. The coasting feels scummy because it has worked in his favor.
In post 2106, Saber wrote:Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.
just gonna point out that even though i townread gamma at this point we technically we haven't really seen anything that disproves s/s
if they were actually svs wagons picking your partner and then sabotaging the flip is a great way to make you look unaligned in that situation
While I agree with this, a
Gamma/Galron
duel feels both like something scum would predict and a rehash from the chair vote. I'd like to see new contestants in the hot seat.
feels closer to town than earlier this phase. But I just don't like the taste of two scumreads I pushed on relatively lukewarm slots to diminish so quickly.
i just want to say, i appreciate you this game, as the only person on the playerlist i had no familiarity with you've been a delight, and i'm sorry if my earlier aggression was offputting (i know it was...probably uncharitable to galron and unfortunate. but some of that is that this is a game where not everything people say can be taken at face value)
i do not want you to feel like you are frozen out this game because i hate when that happens to me as town
and i feel as though you are quite likely to be town and if it's possible i want to reconcile the issues you have with me and see if we can work things out
Consider this reconciled. I just wanted to know that you took my suspicion in good faith. Playing with you has been nice as well.
Oof, I'm trying not to do all-caps in games anymore. Sorry!
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:51 am
by Gammagooey
sheesh
Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while
Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?
That raises another question: with Saber probably being town, scum!finity would have been shifting the wagon into their buddy earlier?
Get that right. YW.
Why is my slot getting pushed? Gamma are you really this terrible at reading me?
I forgor who you are (I think you told me in Dark Waltz)
Oh yes, your partner wound up being scum in that. I don’t recall outing my alt in that game to anyone but I think Alisae might have guessed? But if you have any idea, please don’t out it.
In post 3932, Dwlee99 wrote:Another inconsistency with Skitter's "infinity is town because Dunn vote!" Thing when I voted Dunn way before that and was pushing him to be part of the duel very hard
Actually yeah
You and I WERE the strongest pushers on
Dunn
Event 2.
I’m pretty sure most of the time I was pushing Dunn as well
I did try to put Saber against Toog at one point but that was because unwnd wanted a saber flip
Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while
Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?
Well, in general, when you have two wagons and one flips scum, the cw tends to be town. I’ve seen very few games with two competing scum wagons.
I just wanted to know that you took my suspicion in good faith. Playing with you has been nice as well.
