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↑ Oranje Crush wrote:Can confirm, Boon is literally this bad.

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↑ Oranje Crush wrote:Actually I don't reasonably expect any of you to know what Agent Orange was so never mind that chemical weapon part.

Do you mean to insult us or does this just sort of happen by accident for you?

↑ Oranje Crush wrote:

↑ Boonskiies wrote:So wtf is an Oranje?

I don't know how to explain this.

There are these things called cognates. They are words in other languages that you should be able to figure out because they're almost the same as the English word.

This one is pretty obviously one of them. Especially given the whole fact that we're named after a soda/chemical weapon.

It wasn't meant literal. It was more in the sense of when somebody talks about a person I don't know, instead of saying 'Who is...' I change it to 'what's a...'. it was a meaningless post.

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↑ Narninian wrote:Are you not really paying attention or are you calling masons scum? important distinction here but either way its not looking good.

Or he's using the fact that he's not paying attention as an excuse to call the masons scum and try to get away with it.

Okay.

Boonskies isn't NEARLY that smart.

More apathy than anything. My scum game is pretty strong. If I seem stupid, then I'm obv town.

So actually, thanks for ConfTown'ing me. CONF TOWN!!! WHAT'S GUCCI YO@!!@$#@%@$%%@# AAAAAAAHHHHH@$!@$# 2 GUCCI 4 YUCCI!!!!

↑ God of Power Outlets wrote:

↑ Oranje Crush wrote:Actually I don't reasonably expect any of you to know what Agent Orange was so never mind that chemical weapon part.

Do you seriously think I wouldn't know what agent Orange was? Does any part of my personality suggest I wouldn't understand mass-carcinogenic-defoliation?

Fun fact: one of the islands that they tested the stuff on isn't too far from my hometown and it's been off-limits for 40 years

That was more directed at the game as a whole than to you specifically.

Although the island thing is pretty cool/horrifying.

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↑ Oranje Crush wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:Friendly Neighbor, which I am very familiar with thank you, has an investigative purpose to clear or conform someone.

"Investigative" means

"targets another player and returns alignment-related information,"

not, "reveals information regarding it's alignment."

By your logic an IC and masons are investigative PRs.

No. There is no night action that reveals or sends information with IC and Masons. If there was, I would call them investigative.

Read the bolded.

Friendly Neighbor still doesn't do that.

↑ Drixx wrote:Do you mean to insult us or does this just sort of happen by accident for you?

In what universe can someone saying, "you're dumb" be interpreted as anything other than intentional?

Also while we're on the topic of Agent Orange/Orange Crush, let me just say how insanely proud of this username I am. It's like the ultimate flaunting of culturedness.

Investigative roles target a player to learn about them or send info to another player IMO. I did read your post.

↑ Oranje Crush wrote:Also while we're on the topic of Agent Orange/Orange Crush, let me just say how insanely proud of this username I am. It's like the ultimate flaunting of culturedness.

I am townreading you but posts like this make me wish you died.

↑ Titus wrote:Investigative roles target a player to learn about them

or send info to another player IMO.

I did read your post.

Yeah the bolded is wrong. That's not what the word "investigate" means.

Yeah, and an FN is not an investigator. Still the role falls into an investigative category.

This is pointless.

Ties ties back to my original point about there being roles where targeting me/wgeurts to confirm that we can't be targeted has a higher PV than targeting a random player.

This ties*

Don't care about that yet so yeah pointless.

soo umm... I've actually been to 'nam .

Can we get back to actual scumhunting please?

I sm being a good girl and not dominating but y'all need to put her in drive.

↑ Narninian wrote:soo umm... I've actually been to 'nam .

Thank you, for your service and sacrifice.

↑ LucianRoy wrote:

↑ Narninian wrote:soo umm... I've actually been to 'nam .

Thank you, for your service and sacrifice.

sorry for continuing the distraction but I wanna correct this I was there in 2003 so it wasn't quite a sacrifice or a service :p

Ohh, my Uncle told me stories from his service in Vietnam.
I'm quick to thank people if they say they've been there; usually because they imply they served there.

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↑ Boonskiies wrote:
I'm a Town Skeptical Cop. If no mafia flips before Day 4, I lose my inspection. Which is why the first quote I put, in regarding to BBmolla's claim is why I believed his role is actually in the game. As it fit well with my skeptical. Also, I didn't use my ability Night 1...due to my inactivity...which I stated at the beginning of Day 2.

During Day 2, I also stated I can't read Copper...so he was my target, and I got the result that he was..."not mafia".

I don't like this role claim, I have 2 reasons.

Here's part one:
A skeptical cop losing power on D4 is meaningless because if no scum flipped till town basically lost. I'll do the math for you.
26 players. 3 scum1, 3 scum2, 1 SK, 19 town
3 lynches D1~D3
6 NKs N1~N3
2 delayed NKs N1 & N2 (that happen at the end of D2 & D3)
1 vengilante shot
= 12 deaths and no scum flip = 12 town deaths or 11 town and 1 SK death
You're losing cop power at 7~8 town vs 6~7 non-town situation (with at least 2~3 shots each night). I think you should gain an extra investigation each night if no scums flipped till D4.

Part two is my claim.
Boonskiies claimed almost a carbon copy of my role, except it's for mafia instead of SK.
But with the amount of breadcrumbing I did, anyone with any sort of common sense can safely claim Town Skeptical Cop without the fear of being counterclaimed.
(The number of investigatives in this game is already balance crushingly high to justify existence of such role, if they didn't roflclaim early game and lie about their claim to get shot and lynched)

1) I said I'm going to very likely become VT on D4 <- crumbing skeptic
2) I said I'll be eviscerated tonight if we don't nightskip <- crumbing SK cop
We've seen flips from both factions: "Berlin Undercity Mafia" and "Tropical Voncano Lair Mafia", and yet I've pinpointed the kill flavour coming my way tonight. Meaning my role PM has clues that allow me to link 3 kill flavours to 3 non-town factions.
I'm sure most of you have figured out my role already. Making it official though:

is and my 2 abilities are and .
Seer is simply a werewolf cop, and skeptic I've crumbed like 3~4 times already it should be pretty obvious, if no werewolf flips before D4 I lose my seer ability.
My role PM had zero clues as to whether said werewolf could be mafia or SK.
With the kill flavours we saw at the beginning of D2 led me to belive I was a faction specific cop, that one scum faction was some sort incinerating team like Volcano mafia (BBMolla's miller claim led me to think this way) and the other (that I can investigate) was a group of werewolves.
Remember me backing out of Pika wagon after Ozgin claim saying the faction name (Berlin Undercity Mafia) didn't seem right?
As of beginning of today (D3), after seeing both mafia faction flips and finding out that they're all human I now know that I'm an SK cop but I guess it's a bit too late.
(Although Vyse was a concealed flip, I didn't think I'd link Volcano & eviscerate together and link incinerate kill flavour to something else.)

So here are my thoughts and facts.
, having removed himself from the game every day throughout the night, couldn't have performed the eviscerations thus .
He was under the "dead" pile when he removed himself. 3-shot removal combined with being able to perform NKs is broken, I'm guaranteed VT if BRantz was werewolf. I'll hate the mod for it if this was the case.

was and the result I got was that So vonflare is not a werewolf, save for a successful bus driving.
Boonskiies said his result said copper was "not mafia", but what I expect is "copper is not a mafia." Maybe it's a Boonskiies thing to put words between quotations marks but aren't really quotes.
Also, if I've known that werewolf is SK I'd have chosen someone else over vonflare TBH.

was and he was .
Why in the world would town be cop proof? Either it's BC's power or their teammate has a power where s/he can choose a person to be investigation proof every night or something.
The only scenario where I might possibly reconsider BC is that Pika roleblocked me and lied about roleblocking Oranje as a means of distancing, so Oranje's Berlin Undercity Mafia flip could influence this.
In any other cases, I'm hard committed to BC (funny how I'm SK cop and I'm pursuing scum in exhcange for losing my power),

Boonskiies, since scums have already flipped, is not losing power and is forever cop so that claim was pretty bad IMO.
If we aren't nightskipping, I have 1 more shot at investigating SK and that's finding 1 correct target in a pool of 15 people (although I'd say maybe half dozen is an actual suspect pool) but I might randomly die before D4. Possibly the delayed NK from N2 that's going to happen at the end of today could be me, and if I claim today SK will NK me anyway.
So I asked if we're surely nightskipping, in that case I don't have any investigation left, and if an SK flips then I'm still VT anyway. (With the number of kill flavours so far, 2 scum 1 SK faction is almost certain and I have no reason to strongly believe this SK faction has more than 1 member).
And I'd rather publish all the information I got than die holding them in my chest.

With the number of people who roflclaim investigatives, I don't know why I bothered intentionally playing scummy to put myself in the middle of the road to avoid NKs (especially more so since BPs claimed and failed to attract NKs to themselves).

I think it's better to let Boonskiies live but share his night action target and result every day, with a claim like that I don't suppose he'll live very long.
My top scumspect is BC, but I'm fine with seeing Oranje flip before that.

I think everyone here needs to go read Capcom Mafia.

Because I think we're getting trolled with investigative PRs again.

↑ Oranje Crush wrote:Anger being productive.

It can be. I just don't think this anger is.

↑ Boonskiies wrote:It wasn't meant literal. It was more in the sense of when somebody talks about a person I don't know, instead of saying 'Who is...' I change it to 'what's a...'. it was a meaningless post.

That entire post was meaningless, then?

↑ Boonskiies wrote:So actually, thanks for ConfTown'ing me. CONF TOWN!!! WHAT'S GUCCI YO@!!@$#@%@$%%@# AAAAAAAHHHHH@$!@$# 2 GUCCI 4 YUCCI!!!!

...Yeahno.

↑ deathfisaro wrote:Why in the world would town be cop proof? Either it's BC's power or their teammate has a power where s/he can choose a person to be investigation proof every night or something.

The former, actually. Although I call bullshit on us being "cop proof". That's just exaggerating your result (or lack thereof). And there are town roles that can prevent cop results.

Why did you pick vonflare? And you're a daycop, then?

-Ivy

P-EDIT: Bleh, no. Don't feel up to reading a 200+ page game.